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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Rolf Rabenseifner 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

I hope, that all chapter authers do not edit the tex files today and tomorrow. Otherwise they can do it again. or merge the hugh Fortran changes into their changes. I'll come back with the results tomorrow. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Squyres" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:59:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > Thanks Rolf! > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > > > all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. > > > > I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files > > based on current > > svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV release 1189 > > > > I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. > > Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because > > you only are allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. > > > > Best regards > > Rolf > > > > -- > > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email > > rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone > > ++49(0)711/685-65530 > > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / > > 685-65832 > > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . > > www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > > _______________________________________________ > > mpi-forum mailing list > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Rolf Rabenseifner 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

I hope, that all chapter authors do not edit the tex files today and tomorrow. Otherwise they can do it again. or merge the hughes Fortran changes into their changes. I'll come back with the results tomorrow. Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Squyres" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:59:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > Thanks Rolf! > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > > > all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. > > > > I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files > > based on current > > svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV release 1189 > > > > I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. > > Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because > > you only are allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. > > > > Best regards > > Rolf > > > > -- > > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email > > rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone > > ++49(0)711/685-65530 > > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / > > 685-65832 > > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . > > www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > > _______________________________________________ > > mpi-forum mailing list > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Jeff Squyres 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Thanks Rolf! On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > Dear all chapter-authors, > > all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. > > I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files > based on current > svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV release 1189 > > I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. > Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because > you only are allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. > > Best regards > Rolf > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Fortran Ticket #229
by Rolf Rabenseifner 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Dear all chapter-authors, all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files based on current svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV release 1189 I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because you only are allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. Best regards Rolf -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Chapter Committee Sessions
by Bronis R. de Supinski 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

All: A clarification about the new branch -- how to manage the updates to it (i.e., ticket 0 changes) is up to the chapter authors. For the Tools and EI chpaters, please pass changes through me so I can know the state of the branch and use it to pull the new ticket 0 change to them. When I enter new ticket 0 changes, I plan to mark them as ticket 0-new to distinguish them from existing ticket o changes. Bronis On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Bronis R. de Supinski wrote: > > Rich: > > Jeff (and, to some minor extent, I) killed off the old > mpi-30-minutiae branch and created a new one that has > the current contents of the approved branch. If people > would merge their changes to the approved branch into > that branch then we can use it for ticket 0 changes. > That was my plan for the Tools and EI chapters... > > Bronis > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Richard Graham wrote: > >> Please see inline comments >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bronis R. de Supinski >> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:03 PM >> To: Main MPI Forum List >> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Chapter Committee Sessions >> >> >> Rich: >> >> What is the intent of the chapter committee sessions at the next meeting? My understanding is that we should review the text as it currently stands and decide if any ticket 0 changes are needed. Correct? >> [rich] The goal is to have the chapter ready for the final chapter votes by the end of the meeting. All passed votes should be integrated, and ticket-0 changes should also be applied, but not to the approved branch - we will need to come up with a mechanism for handling the later, as we will need a document that includes all these changes, but don't want to confuse approved changes and proposed changes. >> >> >> Please change the "Profiling Interface chapter committee" >> session to "Tools chapter committee". When we added the MPIT stuff, we changed the name of the chapter. Related to that, I have checked in the changes for that ticket. >> I expect that session will have a fair amount to do since the chapter has changed significantly. I expect we can use the two hour slot fairly easily. >> >> On the other hand, I do not think we need a (long) session for the "External Interfaces chapter committee". I suppose it does not matter since it is the end of the day Tuesday. >> [rich] The extent of changes is really a matter for each committee. At a minimum, there is time to apply the changes already voted in. >> >> In any event, we went over the chapter in detail early in the MPI-3.0 process and it has not changed since. We had some tickets that had a first vote at the last meeting that might have impacted them but I am unsure of their status. >> Are we supposed to apply any newly approved tickets also (i.e., from Monday votes)? >> >> Rolf: >> >> The only outstanding issues, as far as I know, for the tools and EI chpaters are the Fortran changes. I need you to provide a clear list of what changes are needed for those tickets. >> [rich] This is true of all ticket owners - PLEASE get the list of changes to each of the chapter committees, or else approved changes will not make it into the standard. >> >> Rich >> >> Bronis >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Timeline to 3.0
by Richard Graham 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

Well, you are correct - I totally forgot that we added this at the beginning of the MPI-3 process. In the last meeting in Japan there was discussion of changing the rules moving forward to allow for voting on a telecom between meetings, as the number of meeting is going down to once a quarter. Still using the requirement of physical attendance as the criteria for voting eligibility. If we go ahead with such a change, we could have the final vote in time to have version 3.0 ready for SC. Rich -----Original Message----- From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Hursey Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:43 PM To: Main MPI Forum mailing list Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Timeline to 3.0 (Don't read this as me trying to delay the process, just trying to make sure I'm telling users the correct thing.) I thought there had to be a 'formal chapter reading' in a meeting between the final 2nd votes and the final MPI 3.0 vote. I got that notion from the bottom of the first page of: http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/standardization_process_3.pdf So does that push the MPI 3.0 vote to December? Thanks, Josh On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Richard Graham <richardg(a)mellanox.com> wrote: > July 2012 - final votes, and ticket integration > > Sept - final chapter and overall MPI 3.0 vote > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh > Hursey > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:25 PM > To: Main MPI Forum mailing list > Subject: [Mpi-forum] Timeline to 3.0 > > I wanted to double check my understanding of the 3.0 timeline. Is the timeline below correct? > > - July 2012 (Chicago) : > ï¿½- Last of the 2nd votes > ï¿½- Final chapter edits, prep 'draft standard' > > - Sept 2012 (Vienna) ï¿½: > ï¿½- Formal chapter reading > > - Dec. 2012 (San Jose): > ï¿½- Final chapter vote > ï¿½- Release 3.0 > > Thanks, > Josh > > -- > Joshua Hursey > Postdoctoral Research Associate > Oak Ridge National Laboratory > http://users.nccs.gov/~jjhursey > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Joshua Hursey Postdoctoral Research Associate Oak Ridge National Laboratory http://users.nccs.gov/~jjhursey _______________________________________________ mpi-forum mailing list mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Timeline to 3.0
by Josh Hursey 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

(Don't read this as me trying to delay the process, just trying to make sure I'm telling users the correct thing.) I thought there had to be a 'formal chapter reading' in a meeting between the final 2nd votes and the final MPI 3.0 vote. I got that notion from the bottom of the first page of: http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/standardization_process_3.pdf So does that push the MPI 3.0 vote to December? Thanks, Josh On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Richard Graham <richardg(a)mellanox.com> wrote: > July 2012 - final votes, and ticket integration > > Sept - final chapter and overall MPI 3.0 vote > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Hursey > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:25 PM > To: Main MPI Forum mailing list > Subject: [Mpi-forum] Timeline to 3.0 > > I wanted to double check my understanding of the 3.0 timeline. Is the timeline below correct? > > - July 2012 (Chicago) : > ï¿½- Last of the 2nd votes > ï¿½- Final chapter edits, prep 'draft standard' > > - Sept 2012 (Vienna) ï¿½: > ï¿½- Formal chapter reading > > - Dec. 2012 (San Jose): > ï¿½- Final chapter vote > ï¿½- Release 3.0 > > Thanks, > Josh > > -- > Joshua Hursey > Postdoctoral Research Associate > Oak Ridge National Laboratory > http://users.nccs.gov/~jjhursey > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Joshua Hursey Postdoctoral Research Associate Oak Ridge National Laboratory http://users.nccs.gov/~jjhursey

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Timeline to 3.0
by Richard Graham 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

July 2012 - final votes, and ticket integration Sept - final chapter and overall MPI 3.0 vote Rich -----Original Message----- From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Hursey Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:25 PM To: Main MPI Forum mailing list Subject: [Mpi-forum] Timeline to 3.0 I wanted to double check my understanding of the 3.0 timeline. Is the timeline below correct? - July 2012 (Chicago) : - Last of the 2nd votes - Final chapter edits, prep 'draft standard' - Sept 2012 (Vienna) : - Formal chapter reading - Dec. 2012 (San Jose): - Final chapter vote - Release 3.0 Thanks, Josh -- Joshua Hursey Postdoctoral Research Associate Oak Ridge National Laboratory http://users.nccs.gov/~jjhursey _______________________________________________ mpi-forum mailing list mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum

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Timeline to 3.0
by Josh Hursey 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

I wanted to double check my understanding of the 3.0 timeline. Is the timeline below correct? - July 2012 (Chicago) : - Last of the 2nd votes - Final chapter edits, prep 'draft standard' - Sept 2012 (Vienna) : - Formal chapter reading - Dec. 2012 (San Jose): - Final chapter vote - Release 3.0 Thanks, Josh -- Joshua Hursey Postdoctoral Research Associate Oak Ridge National Laboratory http://users.nccs.gov/~jjhursey

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Re: [Mpi-forum] [EXTERNAL] July meeting
by Barrett, Brian W 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

It's a step in the right direction, I suppose. But I still firmly believe we should be able to schedule this thing to be business hours, starting at 1:00 on the first day, ending at noon on the last day, which is essentially what we all signed up for. We've gotten to the point where everyone's so tired by the end of the day that little useful work gets done. The final chapter edits are going to be mind-numbing, particularly after the first 10 hours... Brian On 6/21/12 7:46 AM, "Jeff Hammond" <jhammond(a)alcf.anl.gov> wrote: >The schedule has been adjusted (this morning) to go until 7:15 PM >every night and it ends at 1 PM on Thursday. You might want to check >it now. > >Jeff > >On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> >wrote: >> Rich, >> >> When I booked my flights many weeks ago, >> of course, I expected that the meeting finishes at noon, >> which is 2h30 less than you scheduled. >> >> Additionally, I had to take a flight that I must leave on 11:00 am. >> >> I hope we can do all relevant to me before 11:00 am. >> >> And the other days can be scheduled until 6 pm, which adds in total >>1h45. >> >> If we see that we need more time, we should use on Wednesday the >> after-dinner slot. >> >> Best regards >> Rolf >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Brian W Barrett" <bwbarre(a)sandia.gov> >>> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:03:05 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] [EXTERNAL] July meeting >>> But that's not what we agreed to do. If we need to be more efficient >>> with >>> our time, then let's figure out how to. But every meeting we have an >>> agenda that goes late in the afternoon on the last day, we had a long >>> discussion about how we wouldn't do that when we went to four day >>> meetings, and now we're going to 2:30 again. Which wouldn't be so bad, >>> except that we rarely go anywhere near as late as scheduled on the >>> last >>> day, but I'm not willing to "guess' on that and miss the final >>> logistics / >>> MPI next discussions. >>> >>> The fact that chapter edits 1) are largely serialized and 2) have time >>> which in no way reflects the number of changes (for example, I/O needs >>> as >>> much time as one-sided) suggests that either we've done something >>> terribly >>> wrong with the process or are bad at guessing time allocations. >>> >>> Either way, we should rework the schedule to conform to the meeting >>> schedule we all agreed to when we decided to do these 4 day >>> marathons... >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On 6/19/12 11:34 PM, "Richard Graham" <richardg(a)mellanox.com> wrote: >>> >>> >We need to give time for all the chapter wg's to finish their work. >>> >We >>> >can always be flexible, and consider moving around items on the >>> >agenda to >>> >meet travel needs - and hope we can meet all of them. >>> > >>> >Rich >>> > >>> >-----Original Message----- >>> >From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barrett, >>> >Brian W >>> >Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:44 PM >>> >To: Main MPI Forum mailing list >>> >Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] [EXTERNAL] July meeting >>> > >>> >On 6/16/12 9:30 AM, "Richard Graham" <richardg(a)mellanox.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >>The first cut at the agenda for the July meeting of the Forum is >>> >>on-line. >>> >> As I mentioned at the last meeting, the goal of this meeting is to >>> >> get >>> >>the 3.0 standard ready to be released as a draft standard - all but >>> >>the >>> >>last vote, and perhaps a few ticket-0 minor edits before the final >>> >>vote in Sept. >>> >> >>> >>PLEASE NOTE: we will start as usual at 1pm on Monday, and go through >>> >>2:30 on THURSDAY this is the first of the meetings where we shift to >>> >>a quarterly meeting schedule. >>> >> >>> >>The registration page and hotel information should also be available >>> >>very soon final logistics are being handled. >>> > >>> >Is there a reason we are continuing to go until 2:30 on the last day? >>> >Historically, we have gone until 12:00 on the final day and have only >>> >pushed out further into Wednesday recently in order to cover the rush >>> >for >>> >3.0. With the extension to four days, it would be nice to return to >>> >our >>> >normal final day schedule so that people can attend for the full >>> >session >>> >and make it home that night. >>> > >>> >Brian >>> > >>> >-- >>> > Brian W. Barrett >>> > Dept. 1423: Scalable System Software >>> > Sandia National Laboratories >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >mpi-forum mailing list >>> >mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >mpi-forum mailing list >>> >mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian W. Barrett >>> Dept. 1423: Scalable System Software >>> Sandia National Laboratories >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpi-forum mailing list >>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> >> -- >> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de >> High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 >> University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 >> Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner >> Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > >-- >Jeff Hammond >Argonne Leadership Computing Facility >University of Chicago Computation Institute >jhammond(a)alcf.anl.gov / (630) 252-5381 >http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffhammond >https://wiki.alcf.anl.gov/parts/index.php/User:Jhammond > >_______________________________________________ >mpi-forum mailing list >mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > -- Brian W. Barrett Dept. 1423: Scalable System Software Sandia National Laboratories

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