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Re: [Mpi-forum] C++ types inaccessible after #281
by Jeff Squyres 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

On Jun 27, 2012, at 3:59 PM, N.M. Maclaren wrote: > Yes, this is an ungodly mess. I don't agree with the forum's decision, > but let's accept it. The only reasonable approach is the one of having > MPI types for C++'s types, which could still be used via the C interface > from a C++ compiler. I believe that is what you were referring to, and > what is intended. Thanks for the excellent summary. Don't forget a few points: - As Jim pointed out, all MPI datatypes are supposed to be available in all language bindings. Hence, if we have (for example) MPI_CXX_COMPLEX, it needs to be available in both C and the various Fortran bindings. - This is not as wonky as it sounds; you may have a C++ MPI process send an MPI_CXX_COMPLEX to a Fortran MPI process who simply receives that message into a buffer and doesn't try to interpret it. The Fortran MPI process could then send that same MPI_CXX_COMPLEX process back to a C++ MPI process later, who could then rightfully interpret it properly (this example can be made for any language-specific type, actually). - From an MPI implementation's perspective, we don't have to worry too much about the behavior and semantics of a given type -- we mainly only have to worry about the byte layout in memory. Hence, getting the size of a given type (and sometimes its alignment) is all that is necessary for a C-based MPI implementation to be able to properly pack/unpack/send/receive MPI_CXX_COMPLEX. (right?) - That being said, handling reductions on MPI_CXX_COMPLEX from C-based MPI implementations may be a little problematic if the types are not equivalent between C and C++, for example... -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi-forum] C++ types inaccessible after #281
by N.M. Maclaren 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

On Jun 27 2012, Jim Dinan wrote: > >Apologies if I'm missing something, but this seems to be the same >situation as the Fortan types, which can be used in the C interface. If >the user can't supply the needed compiler in a particular build, then an >implementation should be free to disable these types. It's not the compiler that is the issue, because MPI needs only the C facilities that are available in the C subset of C++. It's what is defined in the various standards. I was hoping to get time to respond in a more carefully thought-out message, but am in a WG5 meeting, so this is in haste. Using C99 is NOT a solution, largely because the requirement is for use from C++ and std::complex and std::bool do not have equivalents in C99 (_Complex ,and _Bool are semantically different, and are not required to match those. Also, the required language is C90, because C++03 inherits from it, and C99 has been rejected (for VERY good reasons) by about half of the C-using communities. While C++11 nominally inherits from C99, it has not included _Complex or _Bool, and has kept a lot of C90 semantics in cases where C99 and C90 are incompatible. Most of those don't affect this, but one aspect does. Someone mentioned that C99 _Complex has better semantics than std::complex. I am afraid that is the converse of the truth, especially when you bring in the utterly appalling Annex G. C++11 has included the function calls for IEEE 754 support, but neither the pragmas nor the semantics, and the combination is therefore totally undefined. Yes, this is an ungodly mess. I don't agree with the forum's decision, but let's accept it. The only reasonable approach is the one of having MPI types for C++'s types, which could still be used via the C interface from a C++ compiler. I believe that is what you were referring to, and what is intended. Regards, Nick Maclaren.

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Rolf Rabenseifner 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Dear all chapter-authors, I checked in the correct mpi-report.tex and ADD-F2008.sed as svn release 1193. Jeff tested it already and it works. Thank you, Jeff and Darius. My apologies about this copy-error. I worked on a local directory and use the approved/MPI-3.0 trunk only for the check-in. Now, all seems to be correct. The pdf file on ticket #229 is still correct, because I did not modify the sources. Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:05:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > Now, I know the bug, and come back in a few minutes with the > correction. > > My apologies. > > Rolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:52:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > Darius, > > > > it may by that the "sed" or the "sh" is not as standardized as > > expected. > > > > I have a second (the old) version of MAKE_FUNC_INDEX > > that may run in some linux systems. > > > > I do not uderstand where which version is needed. > > > > Old MAKE_FUNC_INDEX is attached. > > > > Please check and tell me the result. > > > > Best regards > > Rolf > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Darius Buntinas" <buntinas(a)mcs.anl.gov> > > > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:12:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > The approved branch fails to build. It looks like maybe > > > mpireport.tex > > > was corrupted in the r1191 ? > > > > > > -d > > > > > > On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > > > > > > > Rolf/All, > > > > The approved branch is only for chapter authors to write to - > > > > this > > > > is where we take the draft-standard drops. Since the change is > > > > large, it does not make sense to back out these changes, and > > > > have > > > > the chapter committees put them in after going over them and > > > > verifying the. Instead, if each chapter committed could let me > > > > know > > > > that they have looked over the changes, and are OK with them, > > > > that > > > > will be best. I would like to put out a draft-standard by early > > > > next week with all the changes that people have made, so the > > > > folks > > > > can start to look over it before the next meeting. PLEASE let > > > > me > > > > know when you have looked over the changes. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rolf > > > > Rabenseifner > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:40 AM > > > > To: Main MPI Forum mailing list > > > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > > > > > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > > > > > > > the merge of existing approved/MPI-3.0/* (svn release 1189) and > > > > the > > > > whole Fortran ticket #229 is completed and checked in as (1190,) > > > > 1191, (and 1192). > > > > > > > > Please "svn update" you whole approved/MPI-3.0/ to receive all > > > > the > > > > changed files. > > > > > > > > With this "my write-lock" on the whole source is released now. > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > Rolf > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > > > >> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" > > > >> <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > > >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:04:47 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > >> > > > >> I hope, that all chapter authors do not edit the tex files > > > >> today > > > >> and > > > >> tomorrow. Otherwise they can do it again. > > > >> or merge the hughes Fortran changes into their changes. > > > >> > > > >> I'll come back with the results tomorrow. > > > >> > > > >> Rolf > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>> From: "Jeff Squyres" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> > > > >>> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" > > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:59:32 PM > > > >>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks Rolf! > > > >>> > > > >>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Dear all chapter-authors, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files > > > >>>> based on current svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV > > > >>>> release > > > >>>> 1189 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. > > > >>>> Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because you only > > > >>>> are > > > >>>> allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Best regards > > > >>>> Rolf > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email > > > > rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . > > > > phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . > > > > . > > > > .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . > > > > . > > > > . > > > > www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, > > > > Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > mpi-forum mailing list > > > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > mpi-forum mailing list > > > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mpi-forum mailing list > > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > > -- > > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email > > rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone > > ++49(0)711/685-65530 > > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / > > 685-65832 > > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . > > www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpi-forum mailing list > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Rolf Rabenseifner 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Now, I know the bug, and come back in a few minutes with the correction. My apologies. Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:52:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > Darius, > > it may by that the "sed" or the "sh" is not as standardized as > expected. > > I have a second (the old) version of MAKE_FUNC_INDEX > that may run in some linux systems. > > I do not uderstand where which version is needed. > > Old MAKE_FUNC_INDEX is attached. > > Please check and tell me the result. > > Best regards > Rolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Darius Buntinas" <buntinas(a)mcs.anl.gov> > > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:12:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > The approved branch fails to build. It looks like maybe > > mpireport.tex > > was corrupted in the r1191 ? > > > > -d > > > > On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > > > > > Rolf/All, > > > The approved branch is only for chapter authors to write to - > > > this > > > is where we take the draft-standard drops. Since the change is > > > large, it does not make sense to back out these changes, and have > > > the chapter committees put them in after going over them and > > > verifying the. Instead, if each chapter committed could let me > > > know > > > that they have looked over the changes, and are OK with them, > > > that > > > will be best. I would like to put out a draft-standard by early > > > next week with all the changes that people have made, so the > > > folks > > > can start to look over it before the next meeting. PLEASE let me > > > know when you have looked over the changes. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Rich > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rolf > > > Rabenseifner > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:40 AM > > > To: Main MPI Forum mailing list > > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > > > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > > > > > the merge of existing approved/MPI-3.0/* (svn release 1189) and > > > the > > > whole Fortran ticket #229 is completed and checked in as (1190,) > > > 1191, (and 1192). > > > > > > Please "svn update" you whole approved/MPI-3.0/ to receive all the > > > changed files. > > > > > > With this "my write-lock" on the whole source is released now. > > > > > > Best regards > > > Rolf > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > > >> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:04:47 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > >> > > >> I hope, that all chapter authors do not edit the tex files today > > >> and > > >> tomorrow. Otherwise they can do it again. > > >> or merge the hughes Fortran changes into their changes. > > >> > > >> I'll come back with the results tomorrow. > > >> > > >> Rolf > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Jeff Squyres" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> > > >>> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:59:32 PM > > >>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > >>> > > >>> Thanks Rolf! > > >>> > > >>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Dear all chapter-authors, > > >>>> > > >>>> all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. > > >>>> > > >>>> I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files > > >>>> based on current svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV > > >>>> release > > >>>> 1189 > > >>>> > > >>>> I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. > > >>>> Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because you only are > > >>>> allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. > > >>>> > > >>>> Best regards > > >>>> Rolf > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email > > > rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . > > > phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . > > > .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . > > > . > > > www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, > > > Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mpi-forum mailing list > > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mpi-forum mailing list > > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpi-forum mailing list > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Jeff Squyres 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

I am having the same problem -- mpi-report.tex is borked. It doesn't seem to be a problem with MAKE_FUNC_INDEX or MAKE_APPLANG -- mpi-report.tex itself is hosed (I get a latex error on every single line). pdflatex mpi-report.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/MacPorts 2011_5) restricted \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./mpi-report.tex LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> Babel <v3.8l> and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, cz ech, slovak, dutch, ukenglish, usenglishmax, basque, french, german-x-2009-06-1 9, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, german, ngerman, swissgerman, italian, polish, portugu ese, spanish, catalan, galician, loaded. ! You can't use `macro parameter character #' in vertical mode. l.1 # This one line is needed to remove all old mpifnewbind lines: ? ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H <return> for immediate help. ... l.1 # T his one line is needed to remove all old mpifnewbind lines: ? ! Missing $ inserted. <inserted text> $ l.2 /^ \\mpifnewbind{/d ? ! Missing { inserted. <to be read again> \let l.2 /^\\ mpifnewbind{/d ? ! Missing { inserted. <to be read again> \let l.3 /^\\ mpifnewnonebind{/d ? ....etc. On Jun 27, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > Darius, > > it may by that the "sed" or the "sh" is not as standardized as expected. > > I have a second (the old) version of MAKE_FUNC_INDEX > that may run in some linux systems. > > I do not uderstand where which version is needed. > > Old MAKE_FUNC_INDEX is attached. > > Please check and tell me the result. > > Best regards > Rolf > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Darius Buntinas" <buntinas(a)mcs.anl.gov> >> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:12:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 >> The approved branch fails to build. It looks like maybe mpireport.tex >> was corrupted in the r1191 ? >> >> -d >> >> On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Richard Graham wrote: >> >>> Rolf/All, >>> The approved branch is only for chapter authors to write to - this >>> is where we take the draft-standard drops. Since the change is >>> large, it does not make sense to back out these changes, and have >>> the chapter committees put them in after going over them and >>> verifying the. Instead, if each chapter committed could let me know >>> that they have looked over the changes, and are OK with them, that >>> will be best. I would like to put out a draft-standard by early >>> next week with all the changes that people have made, so the folks >>> can start to look over it before the next meeting. PLEASE let me >>> know when you have looked over the changes. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Rich >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rolf >>> Rabenseifner >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:40 AM >>> To: Main MPI Forum mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 >>> >>> Dear all chapter-authors, >>> >>> the merge of existing approved/MPI-3.0/* (svn release 1189) and the >>> whole Fortran ticket #229 is completed and checked in as (1190,) >>> 1191, (and 1192). >>> >>> Please "svn update" you whole approved/MPI-3.0/ to receive all the >>> changed files. >>> >>> With this "my write-lock" on the whole source is released now. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Rolf >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> >>>> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:04:47 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 >>>> >>>> I hope, that all chapter authors do not edit the tex files today >>>> and >>>> tomorrow. Otherwise they can do it again. >>>> or merge the hughes Fortran changes into their changes. >>>> >>>> I'll come back with the results tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Rolf >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Jeff Squyres" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> >>>>> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:59:32 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Rolf! >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear all chapter-authors, >>>>>> >>>>>> all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files >>>>>> based on current svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV release >>>>>> 1189 >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. >>>>>> Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because you only are >>>>>> allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> Rolf >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email >>> rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . >>> phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . >>> .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . >>> www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, >>> Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpi-forum mailing list >>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpi-forum mailing list >>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > <MAKE-FUNC-INDEX>_______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Rolf Rabenseifner 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Darius, it may by that the "sed" or the "sh" is not as standardized as expected. I have a second (the old) version of MAKE_FUNC_INDEX that may run in some linux systems. I do not uderstand where which version is needed. Old MAKE_FUNC_INDEX is attached. Please check and tell me the result. Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darius Buntinas" <buntinas(a)mcs.anl.gov> > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > The approved branch fails to build. It looks like maybe mpireport.tex > was corrupted in the r1191 ? > > -d > > On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > > > Rolf/All, > > The approved branch is only for chapter authors to write to - this > > is where we take the draft-standard drops. Since the change is > > large, it does not make sense to back out these changes, and have > > the chapter committees put them in after going over them and > > verifying the. Instead, if each chapter committed could let me know > > that they have looked over the changes, and are OK with them, that > > will be best. I would like to put out a draft-standard by early > > next week with all the changes that people have made, so the folks > > can start to look over it before the next meeting. PLEASE let me > > know when you have looked over the changes. > > > > Thanks, > > Rich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rolf > > Rabenseifner > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:40 AM > > To: Main MPI Forum mailing list > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > > > the merge of existing approved/MPI-3.0/* (svn release 1189) and the > > whole Fortran ticket #229 is completed and checked in as (1190,) > > 1191, (and 1192). > > > > Please "svn update" you whole approved/MPI-3.0/ to receive all the > > changed files. > > > > With this "my write-lock" on the whole source is released now. > > > > Best regards > > Rolf > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > >> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:04:47 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > >> > >> I hope, that all chapter authors do not edit the tex files today > >> and > >> tomorrow. Otherwise they can do it again. > >> or merge the hughes Fortran changes into their changes. > >> > >> I'll come back with the results tomorrow. > >> > >> Rolf > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Jeff Squyres" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> > >>> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" > >>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:59:32 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > >>> > >>> Thanks Rolf! > >>> > >>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear all chapter-authors, > >>>> > >>>> all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. > >>>> > >>>> I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files > >>>> based on current svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV release > >>>> 1189 > >>>> > >>>> I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. > >>>> Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because you only are > >>>> allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. > >>>> > >>>> Best regards > >>>> Rolf > > > > -- > > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email > > rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . > > phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . > > .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . > > www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, > > Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > > _______________________________________________ > > mpi-forum mailing list > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpi-forum mailing list > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] C++ types inaccessible after #281
by Jim Dinan 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Hi Doug, Apologies if I'm missing something, but this seems to be the same situation as the Fortan types, which can be used in the C interface. If the user can't supply the needed compiler in a particular build, then an implementation should be free to disable these types. ~Jim. On 6/26/12 11:41 AM, Douglas Miller wrote: > I've got to raise a concern here. If we start defining MPI datatypes to > be C++ types then how will an implementation support that with only a C > compiler? I thought the point of 281 was to eradicate C++ from the > standard (and start over later if C++ was to be defined in the standard). > > > _______________________________________________ > Douglas Miller BlueGene Messaging Development > IBM Corp., Rochester, MN USA Bldg 030-2 A401 > dougmill(a)us.ibm.com Douglas Miller/Rochester/IBM > > Inactive hide details for Jed Brown ---06/26/2012 11:26:16 AM---Jed > Brown <jedbrown(a)mcs.anl.gov>Jed Brown ---06/26/2012 11:26:16 AM---Jed > Brown <jedbrown(a)mcs.anl.gov> > > *Jed Brown <jedbrown(a)mcs.anl.gov>* > Sent by: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > 06/26/2012 11:14 AM > Please respond to > Main MPI Forum mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > > > To > > > Main MPI Forum mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>, > > > cc > > > Subject > > > Re: [Mpi-forum] C++ types inaccessible after #281 > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Jeff Squyres <_jsquyres(a)cisco.com_ > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > There are a few C++-specific datatypes for which it would be worth > introducing new C datatypes (e.g., MPI_CXX_COMPLEX). It's too bad > that no one realized this until now, because this won't make the > MPI-3 deadline. But it could be part of MPI-3.1 or errata, or some > such. > > > Two people in offline discussions have suggested that C bindings to the > std::complex types (I'm not aware of anything else that #281 will lose) > might qualify as ticket 0._______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Richard Graham 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

I do not think I got a request since you took the lock - was actually waiting for it. Actually, the way the lock was taken is causing me some extra work, as I was in the process of integrating other ticket changes. All this is water under the bridge.... Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: Rolf Rabenseifner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 08:25 AM To: Main MPI Forum mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 Rich and all chapter-authors, yes, it is of course a good idea to checkj what I've done. I did it manually and controlled it in a second stage. > The approved branch is only for chapter authors to write to - ... >From my direct mail to the chapter authors: > If you want you can also individually check-in the files that > belong to your chapter. > Then please send me a short notice that you prefer this individual > checking-in. Of course, I offered the individual checkin by the chapter authors, but as expected, nobody asked me for that way. All preferred to only control - that all the own changes are still in - all the Fortran #229 changes are in (compare A and B, URLs below) For this, I added a new pdf to #229. A) Passed #229 text: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/attachment/ticket/229/mpi-repo… or short version: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/attachment/ticket/229/mpi-repo… B) Added #229 to approved/MPI-3.0/: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/attachment/ticket/229/mpi-repo… Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Graham" <richardg(a)mellanox.com> > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:05:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > Rolf/All, > The approved branch is only for chapter authors to write to - this is > where we take the draft-standard drops. Since the change is large, it > does not make sense to back out these changes, and have the chapter > committees put them in after going over them and verifying the. > Instead, if each chapter committed could let me know that they have > looked over the changes, and are OK with them, that will be best. I > would like to put out a draft-standard by early next week with all the > changes that people have made, so the folks can start to look over it > before the next meeting. PLEASE let me know when you have looked over > the changes. > > Thanks, > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rolf > Rabenseifner > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:40 AM > To: Main MPI Forum mailing list > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > the merge of existing approved/MPI-3.0/* (svn release 1189) and the > whole Fortran ticket #229 is completed and checked in as (1190,) 1191, > (and 1192). > > Please "svn update" you whole approved/MPI-3.0/ to receive all the > changed files. > > With this "my write-lock" on the whole source is released now. > > Best regards > Rolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:04:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > > I hope, that all chapter authors do not edit the tex files today and > > tomorrow. Otherwise they can do it again. > > or merge the hughes Fortran changes into their changes. > > > > I'll come back with the results tomorrow. > > > > Rolf > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jeff Squyres" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> > > > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" > > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:59:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > > > > Thanks Rolf! > > > > > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > > > > > > > all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. > > > > > > > > I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files > > > > based on current svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV > > > > release > > > > 1189 > > > > > > > > I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. > > > > Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because you only are > > > > allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > Rolf > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) _______________________________________________ mpi-forum mailing list mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Rolf Rabenseifner 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Rich and all chapter-authors, yes, it is of course a good idea to checkj what I've done. I did it manually and controlled it in a second stage. > The approved branch is only for chapter authors to write to - ... >From my direct mail to the chapter authors: > If you want you can also individually check-in the files that > belong to your chapter. > Then please send me a short notice that you prefer this individual > checking-in. Of course, I offered the individual checkin by the chapter authors, but as expected, nobody asked me for that way. All preferred to only control - that all the own changes are still in - all the Fortran #229 changes are in (compare A and B, URLs below) For this, I added a new pdf to #229. A) Passed #229 text: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/attachment/ticket/229/mpi-repo… or short version: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/attachment/ticket/229/mpi-repo… B) Added #229 to approved/MPI-3.0/: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/attachment/ticket/229/mpi-repo… Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Graham" <richardg(a)mellanox.com> > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:05:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > Rolf/All, > The approved branch is only for chapter authors to write to - this is > where we take the draft-standard drops. Since the change is large, it > does not make sense to back out these changes, and have the chapter > committees put them in after going over them and verifying the. > Instead, if each chapter committed could let me know that they have > looked over the changes, and are OK with them, that will be best. I > would like to put out a draft-standard by early next week with all the > changes that people have made, so the folks can start to look over it > before the next meeting. PLEASE let me know when you have looked over > the changes. > > Thanks, > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rolf > Rabenseifner > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:40 AM > To: Main MPI Forum mailing list > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > the merge of existing approved/MPI-3.0/* (svn release 1189) and the > whole Fortran ticket #229 is completed and checked in as (1190,) 1191, > (and 1192). > > Please "svn update" you whole approved/MPI-3.0/ to receive all the > changed files. > > With this "my write-lock" on the whole source is released now. > > Best regards > Rolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:04:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > > I hope, that all chapter authors do not edit the tex files today and > > tomorrow. Otherwise they can do it again. > > or merge the hughes Fortran changes into their changes. > > > > I'll come back with the results tomorrow. > > > > Rolf > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jeff Squyres" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> > > > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" > > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:59:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > > > > > Thanks Rolf! > > > > > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > > > > > > > all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. > > > > > > > > I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files > > > > based on current svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV > > > > release > > > > 1189 > > > > > > > > I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. > > > > Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because you only are > > > > allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > Rolf > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229
by Darius Buntinas 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

The info chapter looks good. -d On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > Rolf/All, > The approved branch is only for chapter authors to write to - this is where we take the draft-standard drops. Since the change is large, it does not make sense to back out these changes, and have the chapter committees put them in after going over them and verifying the. Instead, if each chapter committed could let me know that they have looked over the changes, and are OK with them, that will be best. I would like to put out a draft-standard by early next week with all the changes that people have made, so the folks can start to look over it before the next meeting. PLEASE let me know when you have looked over the changes. > > Thanks, > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rolf Rabenseifner > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:40 AM > To: Main MPI Forum mailing list > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 > > Dear all chapter-authors, > > the merge of existing approved/MPI-3.0/* (svn release 1189) and the whole Fortran ticket #229 is completed and checked in as (1190,) 1191, (and 1192). > > Please "svn update" you whole approved/MPI-3.0/ to receive all the changed files. > > With this "my write-lock" on the whole source is released now. > > Best regards > Rolf > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> >> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:04:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 >> >> I hope, that all chapter authors do not edit the tex files today and >> tomorrow. Otherwise they can do it again. >> or merge the hughes Fortran changes into their changes. >> >> I'll come back with the results tomorrow. >> >> Rolf >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jeff Squyres" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> >>> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" >>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:59:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Fortran Ticket #229 >>> >>> Thanks Rolf! >>> >>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all chapter-authors, >>>> >>>> all chapters are touched by the new Fortran interface #229. >>>> >>>> I just started to include all ticket #229 into all .tex files >>>> based on current svn/mpi-forum-docs/approved/MPI-3.0/ SNV release >>>> 1189 >>>> >>>> I'll try to give you the modified .tex for your chapter. >>>> Of course, I'll not update this in the SVN because you only are >>>> allowed to commit (check in) new tex files. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Rolf > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum

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