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MPI_SVN_UNLOCK()
by Jeff Squyres 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

Most SVN changes are complete; lock released. Still to do: 1. set permissions properly (I have to run out right now; I'll do them later tonight, but they're complicated so it may take a few tries to get right -- bear with me if you try to commit and get a permission denied. Send me an email and I'll fix it) 2. Try to re-create the latex sources for MPI 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 2.0, 2.1. Although I'm debating as to whether this is worth it... Please let me know if you run into any problems. Thanks! -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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SVN lock
by Jeff Squyres 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

I'm going to do the proposed SVN changes now. Everyone please stay out while I'm making the changes. I'll mail again when I'm done. -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Which document to reference when creating new tickets?
by Jeff Squyres 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

On Jan 7, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Fab Tillier wrote: > I just want to make sure that I don't end up in some procedural BS due to referencing the wrong document. I don't care much which document to reference, and it seems to me to that we should: > > 1. Reference the latest draft when the ticket is created. > 2. Keep the draft reference constant for the life of the ticket. > > Does anyone object to these 'rules'? I do not. I agree that it is less work (i.e., a smaller delta) and less error-prone to refer to the latest published document. In this case, it's the Nov 2010 draft of MPI-3.0. -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Which document to reference when creating new tickets?
by Fab Tillier 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

Bronis R. de Supinski wrote on Fri, 7 Jan 2011 at 11:49:23 > Rolf: > > I have to disagree. When I apply updates, I will apply > them to the current version of the files. It makes much > more sense to write tickets in terms of the most recent > golden copy since that is what will be modified. Is the MPI 3.0 draft a golden copy, or merely silver since it's not complete? > I do agree that existing tickets should be left as they > stand. I also strongly agree that any ticket should > clearly reference whatever version it is based on. I just want to make sure that I don't end up in some procedural BS due to referencing the wrong document. I don't care much which document to reference, and it seems to me to that we should: 1. Reference the latest draft when the ticket is created. 2. Keep the draft reference constant for the life of the ticket. Does anyone object to these 'rules'? Thanks, -Fab > Bronis > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > >> My opinion: >> >> As far as possible, references should be done based on the latest official >> standard, i.e., currently MPI-2.2. >> >> Only in the case that one wants to modify modified or new text in >> MPI-3.0 draft 1, one should make references related to this draft. >> >> Best practice is, to always mention the base, e.g., >> >> MPI-2.2, page 45 line 3-7 reads >> .... >> but should read >> >> .... >> Most opened tickets are besed on MPI-2.2 and should not be modified >> because this would only enlarge the risk that incorrect page or >> line numbers are used. >> >> Rolf >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Fab Tillier" <ftillier(a)microsoft.com> To: >>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org Sent: Friday, January 7, 2011 7:40:48 PM >>> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Which document to reference when creating new >>> tickets? Hi Folks, >>> >>> Now that we have a 3.0 draft posted publicly, which document should be >>> referenced when creating tickets? Should tickets still reference page >>> and line numbers from the 2.2 standard, or should they instead >>> reference the 3.0 draft 1 document? >>> >>> As we create new drafts, will in-progress tickets need to be updated >>> to reference the latest released draft? >>> >>> Lastly, I think it would be much nicer to have the 3.0 draft available >>> from the MPI Documents section of the website, rather than under the >>> meetings information section (which incidentally includes "for 2010" >>> in the link on the main forum page.) >>> >>> -Fab >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpi-forum mailing list >>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> >> -- >> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de >> High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 >> University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 >> Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner >> Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Which document to reference when creating new tickets?
by Bronis R. de Supinski 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

Rolf: I have to disagree. When I apply updates, I will apply them to the current version of the files. It makes much more sense to write tickets in terms of the most recent golden copy since that is what will be modified. I do agree that existing tickets should be left as they stand. I also strongly agree that any ticket should clearly reference whatever version it is based on. Bronis On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote: > My opinion: > > As far as possible, references should be done based on the latest official > standard, i.e., currently MPI-2.2. > > Only in the case that one wants to modify modified or new text in > MPI-3.0 draft 1, one should make references related to this draft. > > Best practice is, to always mention the base, e.g., > > MPI-2.2, page 45 line 3-7 reads > > .... > > but should read > > .... > > Most opened tickets are besed on MPI-2.2 and should not be modified > because this would only enlarge the risk that incorrect page or > line numbers are used. > > Rolf > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fab Tillier" <ftillier(a)microsoft.com> >> To: mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> Sent: Friday, January 7, 2011 7:40:48 PM >> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Which document to reference when creating new tickets? >> Hi Folks, >> >> Now that we have a 3.0 draft posted publicly, which document should be >> referenced when creating tickets? Should tickets still reference page >> and line numbers from the 2.2 standard, or should they instead >> reference the 3.0 draft 1 document? >> >> As we create new drafts, will in-progress tickets need to be updated >> to reference the latest released draft? >> >> Lastly, I think it would be much nicer to have the 3.0 draft available >> from the MPI Documents section of the website, rather than under the >> meetings information section (which incidentally includes "for 2010" >> in the link on the main forum page.) >> >> -Fab >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Which document to reference when creating new tickets?
by Graham, Richard L. 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

The reference to the old text is supposed to help set context to the changes, so the text that will be modified is the latest version of current draft standard. Seems that it would be the least work for us if we use the latest version as the reference. Ultimately, it really does not matter which one we reference, as we are voting to accept a new version of the standard, and how exactly we got there really does not matter. I really do not have strong feelings here. Rich On 1/7/11 2:27 PM, "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> wrote: My opinion: As far as possible, references should be done based on the latest official standard, i.e., currently MPI-2.2. Only in the case that one wants to modify modified or new text in MPI-3.0 draft 1, one should make references related to this draft. Best practice is, to always mention the base, e.g., MPI-2.2, page 45 line 3-7 reads .... but should read .... Most opened tickets are besed on MPI-2.2 and should not be modified because this would only enlarge the risk that incorrect page or line numbers are used. Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fab Tillier" <ftillier(a)microsoft.com> > To: mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > Sent: Friday, January 7, 2011 7:40:48 PM > Subject: [Mpi-forum] Which document to reference when creating new tickets? > Hi Folks, > > Now that we have a 3.0 draft posted publicly, which document should be > referenced when creating tickets? Should tickets still reference page > and line numbers from the 2.2 standard, or should they instead > reference the 3.0 draft 1 document? > > As we create new drafts, will in-progress tickets need to be updated > to reference the latest released draft? > > Lastly, I think it would be much nicer to have the 3.0 draft available > from the MPI Documents section of the website, rather than under the > meetings information section (which incidentally includes "for 2010" > in the link on the main forum page.) > > -Fab > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) _______________________________________________ mpi-forum mailing list mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Which document to reference when creating new tickets?
by Rolf Rabenseifner 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

My opinion: As far as possible, references should be done based on the latest official standard, i.e., currently MPI-2.2. Only in the case that one wants to modify modified or new text in MPI-3.0 draft 1, one should make references related to this draft. Best practice is, to always mention the base, e.g., MPI-2.2, page 45 line 3-7 reads .... but should read .... Most opened tickets are besed on MPI-2.2 and should not be modified because this would only enlarge the risk that incorrect page or line numbers are used. Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fab Tillier" <ftillier(a)microsoft.com> > To: mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > Sent: Friday, January 7, 2011 7:40:48 PM > Subject: [Mpi-forum] Which document to reference when creating new tickets? > Hi Folks, > > Now that we have a 3.0 draft posted publicly, which document should be > referenced when creating tickets? Should tickets still reference page > and line numbers from the 2.2 standard, or should they instead > reference the 3.0 draft 1 document? > > As we create new drafts, will in-progress tickets need to be updated > to reference the latest released draft? > > Lastly, I think it would be much nicer to have the 3.0 draft available > from the MPI Documents section of the website, rather than under the > meetings information section (which incidentally includes "for 2010" > in the link on the main forum page.) > > -Fab > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] SVN management
by Martin Schulz 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > On Jan 7, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Martin Schulz wrote: > >> I won't have this done in the next two hours, but I don't want to >> hold things up. Can you send emails when you start (and >> hence lock) the repository and when you are done? I'll add >> my changes after that this evening PT. > > Can do. The tools stuff should all move en-masse as a single directory, so it shouldn't be too hard to move your changes manually. Sounds good, thanks. Martin > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum ________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

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Re: [Mpi-forum] SVN management
by Jeff Squyres 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

On Jan 7, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Martin Schulz wrote: > I won't have this done in the next two hours, but I don't want to > hold things up. Can you send emails when you start (and > hence lock) the repository and when you are done? I'll add > my changes after that this evening PT. Can do. The tools stuff should all move en-masse as a single directory, so it shouldn't be too hard to move your changes manually. -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi-forum] SVN management
by Martin Schulz 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > On Jan 7, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Martin Schulz wrote: > >> What is the process for the transition, though, and when exactly are >> you planning to do this? I was planning to add a set of changes to >> the MPIT document today (ahead of our next WG TelCon on Monday) >> and others may be in a similar situation and I want to make sure this >> doesn't mess things up. > > I was planning to do this starting at 4pm US Eastern today. > > But that was a relatively arbitrary deadline for myself; I just wanted to get it done. If you're not finished in the next 2 hours, just let me know and I can do it Monday instead. I won't have this done in the next two hours, but I don't want to hold things up. Can you send emails when you start (and hence lock) the repository and when you are done? I'll add my changes after that this evening PT. Thanks, Martin > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum ________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

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