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Re: [Mpi3-tools] TelCon 9/20 cancelled
by Martin Schulz 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

On Sep 20, 2010, at 5:06 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > I updated the wiki and did the relevant magic with webex to move it > to Oct 4th. Great, thanks. > > Don't forget that the next MPI Forum meeting is only 3 weeks away > (Oct 11), so this will likely be the only tools wg meeting before it. Yes, that's right - unless someone wants to bring something else up for an extra meeting next week. That would be our only other option. Martin > > > On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:25 AM, Martin Schulz wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry for the short notice: >> >> Since the MPI forum just met over the weekend and many may >> still be on the way back from Stuttgart, I am not sure if it makes >> sense to hold a meeting tomorrow. Since I further don't have >> anything new, yet, I am canceling tomorrow's (9/20) meeting. >> We'll meet again in two weeks with an update on MPIT. >> >> If there is something else that needs to be discussed prior to >> the October meeting, please let me know and we can schedule >> an extra meeting next week. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Martin >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://BLOCKEDpeople.llnl.gov/ >> schulzm >> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://BLOCKEDlists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: > http://BLOCKEDwww.BLOCKEDcisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://BLOCKEDlists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > ________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] TelCon 9/20 cancelled
by Jeff Squyres 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

I updated the wiki and did the relevant magic with webex to move it to Oct 4th. Don't forget that the next MPI Forum meeting is only 3 weeks away (Oct 11), so this will likely be the only tools wg meeting before it. On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:25 AM, Martin Schulz wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry for the short notice: > > Since the MPI forum just met over the weekend and many may > still be on the way back from Stuttgart, I am not sure if it makes > sense to hold a meeting tomorrow. Since I further don't have > anything new, yet, I am canceling tomorrow's (9/20) meeting. > We'll meet again in two weeks with an update on MPIT. > > If there is something else that needs to be discussed prior to > the October meeting, please let me know and we can schedule > an extra meeting next week. > > Thanks, > > Martin > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] TelCon 9/20 cancelled
by Marc-André Hermanns 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

Hi Martin, during the discussion of the one-sided communication chapter at Stuttgart, it was also discussed to disable the profiling interface from the command line. The reason for that (as I understood it) was that some of the new functionality might be very sensitive to additional latency, and some operations might also be able to be handled by single or few processor instructions. The feeling there was to enable implementations to use macros where applicable. As I understand this, the prominent idea on how to handle this is to have a compile-time flag to 'mpicc' which will choose the correct implementation (w/ or w/o PMPI). However, currently not even the name of the wrapper is explicitly specified, let alone a specific option. As this effects the profiling functionality, I think we should also discuss this here, and come up with a solution that is described somewhere in this chapter. What do you think? Cheers, Marc-Andre On 20.09.2010, at 08:25, Martin Schulz wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry for the short notice: > > Since the MPI forum just met over the weekend and many may > still be on the way back from Stuttgart, I am not sure if it makes > sense to hold a meeting tomorrow. Since I further don't have > anything new, yet, I am canceling tomorrow's (9/20) meeting. > We'll meet again in two weeks with an update on MPIT. > > If there is something else that needs to be discussed prior to > the October meeting, please let me know and we can schedule > an extra meeting next week. > > Thanks, > > Martin > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Marc-Andre Hermanns German Research School for Simulation Sciences GmbH c/o Laboratory for Parallel Programming 52056 Aachen | Germany Tel +49 241 80 99753 Fax +49 241 80 6 99753 Web www.grs-sim.de Members: Forschungszentrum Jülich GmbH | RWTH Aachen University Registered in the commercial register of the local court of Düren (Amtsgericht Düren) under registration number HRB 5268 Registered office: Jülich Executive board: Prof. Dr. Heiner Müller-Krumbhaar | Prof. Marek Behr, Ph.D.

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[Mpi3-tools] TelCon 9/20 cancelled
by Martin Schulz 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

Hi all, Sorry for the short notice: Since the MPI forum just met over the weekend and many may still be on the way back from Stuttgart, I am not sure if it makes sense to hold a meeting tomorrow. Since I further don't have anything new, yet, I am canceling tomorrow's (9/20) meeting. We'll meet again in two weeks with an update on MPIT. If there is something else that needs to be discussed prior to the October meeting, please let me know and we can schedule an extra meeting next week. Thanks, Martin ________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] MPIR document
by Jeff Squyres 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

+1 On Sep 17, 2010, at 6:40 PM, John DelSignore wrote: > Hi Martin, > > And thank you for all your efforts! > > Now, I hate to say it, but we should work on creating the message queue document next. > > Cheers, John D. > > > Martin Schulz wrote: >> Hi Jeff, >> >> On Sep 17, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: >> >>> The MPIR document passed its first reading. >> >> This is great - thanks again for handling this at the MPI forum - >> and thanks to John for putting the document together. I think >> this document is a great help for both the tools and the MPI >> community! >> >> Martin >> >> >>> There are still two latex formatting issues to work out, but the >>> Forum agreed that these can proceed after this first reading >>> (because we're not changing any *content* -- we're only changing >>> some formatting issues). >>> >>> - Bill already removed the chapter number suffix ("1") from the >>> bibliography >>> - Bill is/I am working on adding a header, footer, or watermark >>> containing "The interface described in this document is not part of >>> the official MPI specification" to most/every page. A beauty >>> contest will be conducted via email to determine which one we want >>> to use. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Squyres >>> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >>> For corporate legal information go to: >>> http://BLOCKEDwww.BLOCKEDcisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mpi3-tools mailing list >>> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://BLOCKEDlists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >>> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm >> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >> > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] MPIR document
by John DelSignore 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

Hi Martin, And thank you for all your efforts! Now, I hate to say it, but we should work on creating the message queue document next. Cheers, John D. Martin Schulz wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > On Sep 17, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > >> The MPIR document passed its first reading. > > This is great - thanks again for handling this at the MPI forum - > and thanks to John for putting the document together. I think > this document is a great help for both the tools and the MPI > community! > > Martin > > >> There are still two latex formatting issues to work out, but the >> Forum agreed that these can proceed after this first reading >> (because we're not changing any *content* -- we're only changing >> some formatting issues). >> >> - Bill already removed the chapter number suffix ("1") from the >> bibliography >> - Bill is/I am working on adding a header, footer, or watermark >> containing "The interface described in this document is not part of >> the official MPI specification" to most/every page. A beauty >> contest will be conducted via email to determine which one we want >> to use. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >> For corporate legal information go to: >> http://BLOCKEDwww.BLOCKEDcisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://BLOCKEDlists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] MPIR document
by Martin Schulz 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

Hi Jeff, On Sep 17, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > The MPIR document passed its first reading. This is great - thanks again for handling this at the MPI forum - and thanks to John for putting the document together. I think this document is a great help for both the tools and the MPI community! Martin > > There are still two latex formatting issues to work out, but the > Forum agreed that these can proceed after this first reading > (because we're not changing any *content* -- we're only changing > some formatting issues). > > - Bill already removed the chapter number suffix ("1") from the > bibliography > - Bill is/I am working on adding a header, footer, or watermark > containing "The interface described in this document is not part of > the official MPI specification" to most/every page. A beauty > contest will be conducted via email to determine which one we want > to use. > > Thanks! > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: > http://BLOCKEDwww.BLOCKEDcisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://BLOCKEDlists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > ________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

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[Mpi3-tools] MPIR document
by Jeff Squyres 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

The MPIR document passed its first reading. There are still two latex formatting issues to work out, but the Forum agreed that these can proceed after this first reading (because we're not changing any *content* -- we're only changing some formatting issues). - Bill already removed the chapter number suffix ("1") from the bibliography - Bill is/I am working on adding a header, footer, or watermark containing "The interface described in this document is not part of the official MPI specification" to most/every page. A beauty contest will be conducted via email to determine which one we want to use. Thanks! -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] URGENT: feedback from first reading of MPIR
by Supalov, Alexander 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

Thanks. The default value of the variable may also be an OS default. -----Original Message----- From: mpi3-tools-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Squyres Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 6:55 PM To: mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org Subject: Re: [Mpi3-tools] URGENT: feedback from first reading of MPIR On Sep 16, 2010, at 6:23 PM, John DelSignore wrote: > No, it doesn't have to be an IPv4 address. There is nothing that I know of in MPIR that excludes IPv6. The "host_name" field of the procdesc structure is a string pointer, so the string can resolve to an IPv4 or IPv6 address. And as it says in the document, on BProc systems, "host_name" is a BProc node number so the string is also open to interpretations other than just IP address. Our emails crossed in the ether, but thankfully your reply supports the same conclusion I came to. :-) -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel GmbH Dornacher Strasse 1 85622 Feldkirchen/Muenchen, Deutschland Sitz der Gesellschaft: Feldkirchen bei Muenchen Geschaeftsfuehrer: Douglas Lusk, Peter Gleissner, Hannes Schwaderer Registergericht: Muenchen HRB 47456 Ust.-IdNr./VAT Registration No.: DE129385895 Citibank Frankfurt a.M. (BLZ 502 109 00) 600119052

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Updated document
by Jeff Squyres 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

Great -- thanks Martin and John! On Sep 16, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Martin Schulz wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Thanks for running the session and for making the changes. > I am (pleasantly) surprised that they are only that minor :). > I looked over the text in red and this all looks good to me. > > Martin > > > On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > >> ALERT: There is currently a vulnerability with PDF files. Do not open any PDF attachments from sources you do not trust or unexpected PDF files from sources you do trust. >> >> Here's a copy of the updated document. I made all my changes in red text; you should be able to flip through it quickly to see my changes. >> >> At a minimum, could Martin and John D. reply that it's ok? >> >> I did *not* change any text about the IP address. Reading the 3 places where IP addresses are discussed, I'm comfortable leaving it unspecified as to whether the IP address is IPv4 or IPv6. Do any existing tools allow MPIR_PROCDESC.host_name to be an IPv6 address? >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >> For corporate legal information go to: >> http://BLOCKEDwww.BLOCKEDcisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >> <mpi-report.pdf><ATT00001..txt> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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