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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time
by John DelSignore 31 May '13

31 May '13

Yes, I filled out only the first week, because the second week is same. Cheers, John D. Mohror, Kathryn wrote: > Anh, Jeff, Thanks for letting me know that. > > John, is that the case for you as well? > > Kathryn > > On May 30, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Anh Vo <Anh.Vo(a)microsoft.com > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Same here, I filled out only one week (second week has same >> availability as first week) >> >> --Anh >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mpi3-tools-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Jeff Squyres >> (jsquyres) >> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:45 PM >> To: <mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: [Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time >> >> Gotcha. >> >> FWIW, my availability is the same for both weeks, so I only filled out >> one week's worth. :-) >> >> >> On May 30, 2013, at 9:37 PM, "Mohror, Kathryn" <mohror1(a)llnl.gov >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes. The intent was to see how people's schedules work out on >>> alternating weeks to find which is better, and not for those >>> particular dates. It makes more sense to start back up the week of the >>> 17th or 24th since people won't likely get anything done immediately >>> after the forum. Let me know if I didn't explain my intention well. >>> One of these days I'll set up a doodle poll properly :-) >>> >>> Kathryn >>> >>> On May 30, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) >>> <jsquyres(a)cisco.com <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> I assume that we'll actually have a teleconf *2 weeks* after the >>>> Forum, not *1 week*, right? >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> There have been requests to try to change the time for our >>>>> bi-weekly working group telecon. I have made a doodle poll to help >>>>> us decide this. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.doodle.com/v79ywsuqckavywuc >>>>> >>>>> Please do this by next Tuesday June 4 as we will discuss this at >>>>> the forum meeting on Wednesday June 5 to make a decision on the >>>>> meeting time. >>>>> >>>>> Kathryn >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >>>>> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mpi3-tools mailing list >>>>> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jeff Squyres >>>> jsquyres(a)cisco.com <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> For corporate legal information go to: >>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mpi3-tools mailing list >>>> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov <mailto:[email protected]>, >>> http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC >>> @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mpi3-tools mailing list >>> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> jsquyres(a)cisco.com <mailto:[email protected]> >> For corporate legal information go to: >> http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov > <mailto:[email protected]>, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > >

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time
by Mohror, Kathryn 30 May '13

30 May '13

Anh, Jeff, Thanks for letting me know that. John, is that the case for you as well? Kathryn On May 30, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Anh Vo <Anh.Vo(a)microsoft.com<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Same here, I filled out only one week (second week has same availability as first week) --Anh -----Original Message----- From: mpi3-tools-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:45 PM To: <mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time Gotcha. FWIW, my availability is the same for both weeks, so I only filled out one week's worth. :-) On May 30, 2013, at 9:37 PM, "Mohror, Kathryn" <mohror1(a)llnl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes. The intent was to see how people's schedules work out on alternating weeks to find which is better, and not for those particular dates. It makes more sense to start back up the week of the 17th or 24th since people won't likely get anything done immediately after the forum. Let me know if I didn't explain my intention well. One of these days I'll set up a doodle poll properly :-) Kathryn On May 30, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I assume that we'll actually have a teleconf *2 weeks* after the Forum, not *1 week*, right? On May 30, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi all, There have been requests to try to change the time for our bi-weekly working group telecon. I have made a doodle poll to help us decide this. http://www.doodle.com/v79ywsuqckavywuc Please do this by next Tuesday June 4 as we will discuss this at the forum meeting on Wednesday June 5 to make a decision on the meeting time. Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com<mailto:[email protected]> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com<mailto:[email protected]> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time
by Anh Vo 30 May '13

30 May '13

Same here, I filled out only one week (second week has same availability as first week) --Anh -----Original Message----- From: mpi3-tools-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:45 PM To: <mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Subject: Re: [Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time Gotcha. FWIW, my availability is the same for both weeks, so I only filled out one week's worth. :-) On May 30, 2013, at 9:37 PM, "Mohror, Kathryn" <mohror1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Yes. The intent was to see how people's schedules work out on > alternating weeks to find which is better, and not for those > particular dates. It makes more sense to start back up the week of the > 17th or 24th since people won't likely get anything done immediately > after the forum. Let me know if I didn't explain my intention well. > One of these days I'll set up a doodle poll properly :-) > > Kathryn > > On May 30, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > >> I assume that we'll actually have a teleconf *2 weeks* after the Forum, not *1 week*, right? >> >> >> On May 30, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> There have been requests to try to change the time for our bi-weekly working group telecon. I have made a doodle poll to help us decide this. >>> >>> http://www.doodle.com/v79ywsuqckavywuc >>> >>> Please do this by next Tuesday June 4 as we will discuss this at the forum meeting on Wednesday June 5 to make a decision on the meeting time. >>> >>> Kathryn >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >>> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mpi3-tools mailing list >>> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >> For corporate legal information go to: >> http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC > @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 30 May '13

30 May '13

Gotcha. FWIW, my availability is the same for both weeks, so I only filled out one week's worth. :-) On May 30, 2013, at 9:37 PM, "Mohror, Kathryn" <mohror1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Yes. The intent was to see how people's schedules work out on alternating weeks to find which is better, and not for those particular dates. It makes more sense to start back up the week of the 17th or 24th since people won't likely get anything done immediately after the forum. Let me know if I didn't explain my intention well. One of these days I'll set up a doodle poll properly :-) > > Kathryn > > On May 30, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > >> I assume that we'll actually have a teleconf *2 weeks* after the Forum, not *1 week*, right? >> >> >> On May 30, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> There have been requests to try to change the time for our bi-weekly working group telecon. I have made a doodle poll to help us decide this. >>> >>> http://www.doodle.com/v79ywsuqckavywuc >>> >>> Please do this by next Tuesday June 4 as we will discuss this at the forum meeting on Wednesday June 5 to make a decision on the meeting time. >>> >>> Kathryn >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >>> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mpi3-tools mailing list >>> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time
by Mohror, Kathryn 30 May '13

30 May '13

Yes. The intent was to see how people's schedules work out on alternating weeks to find which is better, and not for those particular dates. It makes more sense to start back up the week of the 17th or 24th since people won't likely get anything done immediately after the forum. Let me know if I didn't explain my intention well. One of these days I'll set up a doodle poll properly :-) Kathryn On May 30, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I assume that we'll actually have a teleconf *2 weeks* after the Forum, not *1 week*, right? On May 30, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi all, There have been requests to try to change the time for our bi-weekly working group telecon. I have made a doodle poll to help us decide this. http://www.doodle.com/v79ywsuqckavywuc Please do this by next Tuesday June 4 as we will discuss this at the forum meeting on Wednesday June 5 to make a decision on the meeting time. Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com<mailto:[email protected]> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 30 May '13

30 May '13

I assume that we'll actually have a teleconf *2 weeks* after the Forum, not *1 week*, right? On May 30, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi all, > > There have been requests to try to change the time for our bi-weekly working group telecon. I have made a doodle poll to help us decide this. > > http://www.doodle.com/v79ywsuqckavywuc > > Please do this by next Tuesday June 4 as we will discuss this at the forum meeting on Wednesday June 5 to make a decision on the meeting time. > > Kathryn > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Tools side document future work
by Jeff Hammond 30 May '13

30 May '13

> The morph layer came from the idea of how can we add a small tool layer on top of MPI A, so that a code compiled for MPI B can run on top of MPI A. I don't think this will be that easy to do and I am not sure if this is something for the side document, since it would probably require changes in the first party interface. You mean the idea covered by http://www.google.com/patents/US7966624? Jeff -- Jeff Hammond Argonne Leadership Computing Facility University of Chicago Computation Institute jhammond(a)alcf.anl.gov / (630) 252-5381 http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffhammond https://wiki.alcf.anl.gov/parts/index.php/User:Jhammond ALCF docs: http://www.alcf.anl.gov/user-guides

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Tools side document future work
by Schulz, Martin 30 May '13

30 May '13

On May 30, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi Ahn, all, > > These are the future work items for the tools side document that I know about. > > From our wiki page: > ï¿½ A scalable version of a process acquisition interface to identify and locate all processes which are part of an MPI job. > ï¿½ An interface to look for and locate tool DLLs. > ï¿½ An interface to inspect message queues. > ï¿½ An interface to understand progress in collective communication. > ï¿½ An interface to query additional semantic information for opaque MPI handles. > ï¿½ An MPI morph layer (and the necessary requirements to make this work) > I don't know what the MPI morph layer is. Maybe Jeff or Martin have this information? The morph layer came from the idea of how can we add a small tool layer on top of MPI A, so that a code compiled for MPI B can run on top of MPI A. I don't think this will be that easy to do and I am not sure if this is something for the side document, since it would probably require changes in the first party interface. Martin > > Additionally, for MPIR we want to add routines to query which resource manager is being used and what the command for bulk launch is (e.g. srun, mpirun). > > Does anyone else have others? > > Kathryn > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

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[Mpi3-tools] Tools side document future work
by Kathryn Mohror 30 May '13

30 May '13

Hi Ahn, all, These are the future work items for the tools side document that I know about. From our wiki page: A scalable version of a process acquisition interface to identify and locate all processes which are part of an MPI job. An interface to look for and locate tool DLLs. An interface to inspect message queues. An interface to understand progress in collective communication. An interface to query additional semantic information for opaque MPI handles. An MPI morph layer (and the necessary requirements to make this work) I don't know what the MPI morph layer is. Maybe Jeff or Martin have this information? Additionally, for MPIR we want to add routines to query which resource manager is being used and what the command for bulk launch is (e.g. srun, mpirun). Does anyone else have others? Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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[Mpi3-tools] Doodle poll to change bi-weekly meeting time
by Kathryn Mohror 30 May '13

30 May '13

Hi all, There have been requests to try to change the time for our bi-weekly working group telecon. I have made a doodle poll to help us decide this. http://www.doodle.com/v79ywsuqckavywuc Please do this by next Tuesday June 4 as we will discuss this at the forum meeting on Wednesday June 5 to make a decision on the meeting time. Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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