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Re: [mpiwg-tools] working group depository
by Todd Gamblin 18 Apr '14

18 Apr '14

I think you should call the last directory there MPI-3.1-toolsWGtrunk for full symmetry. On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Yes it is :-) If it bothers you I don’t mind if you change it. I had it that way because it was just a copy of MPI-3.1 from the approved directory. > > Kathryn > > On Apr 18, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > >> On Apr 17, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >> >>> For anyone who wanted to muck with the text for ticket 383, I put the document into the tools working group repository (trunk/working-groups/mpi-3/tools/MPI-3.1-toolsWG). >> >> BTW: That's a repetitive and redundant directory name. ;-) >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-tools mailing list >> mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools > > _________________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ > Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-tools mailing list > mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools ______________________________________________________________________ Todd Gamblin, tgamblin(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/gamblin2 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] working group depository
by Kathryn Mohror 18 Apr '14

18 Apr '14

Yes it is :-) If it bothers you I don’t mind if you change it. I had it that way because it was just a copy of MPI-3.1 from the approved directory. Kathryn On Apr 18, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > On Apr 17, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > >> For anyone who wanted to muck with the text for ticket 383, I put the document into the tools working group repository (trunk/working-groups/mpi-3/tools/MPI-3.1-toolsWG). > > BTW: That's a repetitive and redundant directory name. ;-) > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-tools mailing list > mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools _________________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] working group depository
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 18 Apr '14

18 Apr '14

On Apr 17, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > For anyone who wanted to muck with the text for ticket 383, I put the document into the tools working group repository (trunk/working-groups/mpi-3/tools/MPI-3.1-toolsWG). BTW: That's a repetitive and redundant directory name. ;-) -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] working group depository
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 18 Apr '14

18 Apr '14

Fix a minor typo and remove a redundant word. To repeat -- this is a new suggestion for ticket 383 (http://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/383) ----- Variables with the same name in connected processes are required to: * Adhere to the same definition from the MPI implementation * Exhibit the same behavioral semantics * Return the same INOUT and OUT values from the relevant MPI_T_*_GET_INFO function, with the exception that OUT index values may differ between processes Similarly, enumerations and categories with the same name in connected processes must also obey the above restrictions. Advice to implementors. The intent of these requirements is to enforce consistent meanings of variables, categories, and enumerations across connected processes. For example, variables describing the number of packets sent across different network device types should have different names to reflect their potentially different meanings. (End of advice to implementors.) ----- On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > How's this for a new suggestion: > > ----- > Variables with the same name in connected processes are required to: > > * Adhere to the same definition from the MPI implementation > * Exhibit the same behavioral semantics > * Return the same INOUT and OUT values from the relevant > MPI_T_*_GET_INFO function, with the exception that OUT index values > may differ between different processes > > Similarly, enumerations and categories with the same name in connected > processes must also obey the above restrictions, > > Advice to implementors. The intent of these requirements is to enforce > consistent meanings of variables, categories, and enumerations > across connected processes. For example, variables describing the > number of packets sent across different network device types should > have different names to reflect their potentially different > meanings. (End of advice to implementors.) > ----- > > > On Apr 17, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> For anyone who wanted to muck with the text for ticket 383, I put the document into the tools working group repository (trunk/working-groups/mpi-3/tools/MPI-3.1-toolsWG). >> >> Kathryn >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ >> Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-tools mailing list >> mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools > > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Meeting reminder for tomorrow April 17
by Kathryn Mohror 17 Apr '14

17 Apr '14

Hi all, If you missed today’s meeting, or you want to see what I think you volunteered to do :-) I posted notes on the wiki: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools/notes-2014-04-17 Kathryn On Apr 16, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry for the late reminder, but we are scheduled to have our bi-weekly meeting tomorrow March 20 8am PDT, 11am EDT. > > Agenda: > - MPI Handle Introspection Interface. We will be joined by the student who will be implementing this into TotalView. > - Ticket 383 (‘variables with the same name must have the same meaning’ errata ticket). I made the changes from the last meeting. We should go over them. > > As always, the sign in information for the call is on the tools wiki: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools > > Talk to you soon! > Kathryn > _________________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ > Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] working group depository
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 17 Apr '14

17 Apr '14

How's this for a new suggestion: ----- Variables with the same name in connected processes are required to: * Adhere to the same definition from the MPI implementation * Exhibit the same behavioral semantics * Return the same INOUT and OUT values from the relevant MPI_T_*_GET_INFO function, with the exception that OUT index values may differ between different processes Similarly, enumerations and categories with the same name in connected processes must also obey the above restrictions, Advice to implementors. The intent of these requirements is to enforce consistent meanings of variables, categories, and enumerations across connected processes. For example, variables describing the number of packets sent across different network device types should have different names to reflect their potentially different meanings. (End of advice to implementors.) ----- On Apr 17, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi all, > > For anyone who wanted to muck with the text for ticket 383, I put the document into the tools working group repository (trunk/working-groups/mpi-3/tools/MPI-3.1-toolsWG). > > Kathryn > _________________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ > Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-tools mailing list > mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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working group depository
by Kathryn Mohror 17 Apr '14

17 Apr '14

Hi all, For anyone who wanted to muck with the text for ticket 383, I put the document into the tools working group repository (trunk/working-groups/mpi-3/tools/MPI-3.1-toolsWG). Kathryn _________________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Meeting reminder for tomorrow April 17
by Kathryn Mohror 16 Apr '14

16 Apr '14

Hi all, Sorry for the late reminder, but we are scheduled to have our bi-weekly meeting tomorrow March 20 8am PDT, 11am EDT. Agenda: - MPI Handle Introspection Interface. We will be joined by the student who will be implementing this into TotalView. - Ticket 383 (‘variables with the same name must have the same meaning’ errata ticket). I made the changes from the last meeting. We should go over them. As always, the sign in information for the call is on the tools wiki: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools Talk to you soon! Kathryn _________________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Meeting reminder for April 3 11:00 AM EDT, 8:00 AM PDT
by Kathryn Mohror 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

Hi Martin, >> In case you're just *dying* to see > > I am so glad you sent this - couldn’t have found sleep without it ;) :-) > >> what the changes for ticket 383 look like from our discussions today and from Adam's feedback, I have attached the new document. >> >> Also, Adam's comments were basically that he didn't understand the meaning of the table, so I changed it up and he likes it now. > > This looks good to me. I would change the caption, though, and add something like “identical across all connected processes” That's a good suggestion. I struggled with the caption… I'll fix it. Thanks! Kathryn > > Thanks, > > Martin > > > >> >> Kathryn >> >> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I put notes from today's meeting on the wiki: >>> >>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools/notes-2014-04-03 >>> >>> Kathryn >>> >>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> This is a reminder of our regularly scheduled call tomorrow at 11:00 AM Eastern and 8:00 AM Pacific. As always, the sign in information for the call is on the tools wiki: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools >>>> >>>> I drafted some text for 383 (the 'variables with the same name must have same meaning' errata ticket). We can tear it apart on the call. The document is attached if you want to look at it in advance. >>>> >>>> Talk to you tomorrow! >>>> Kathryn >>>> >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ >>>> Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <tools-3.pdf> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ >>> Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpiwg-tools mailing list >>> mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ >> Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <tools-3.pdf> > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-tools mailing list > mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools _________________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Meeting reminder for April 3 11:00 AM EDT, 8:00 AM PDT
by Schulz, Martin 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

Hi Kathryn, On Apr 3, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In case you're just *dying* to see I am so glad you sent this - couldn’t have found sleep without it ;) > what the changes for ticket 383 look like from our discussions today and from Adam's feedback, I have attached the new document. > > Also, Adam's comments were basically that he didn't understand the meaning of the table, so I changed it up and he likes it now. This looks good to me. I would change the caption, though, and add something like “identical across all connected processes” Thanks, Martin > > Kathryn > > > On Apr 3, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I put notes from today's meeting on the wiki: >> >> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools/notes-2014-04-03 >> >> Kathryn >> >> On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is a reminder of our regularly scheduled call tomorrow at 11:00 AM Eastern and 8:00 AM Pacific. As always, the sign in information for the call is on the tools wiki: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools >>> >>> I drafted some text for 383 (the 'variables with the same name must have same meaning' errata ticket). We can tear it apart on the call. The document is attached if you want to look at it in advance. >>> >>> Talk to you tomorrow! >>> Kathryn >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ >>> Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <tools-3.pdf> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ >> Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-tools mailing list >> mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools > > _________________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/ > Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > > > > > <tools-3.pdf>

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