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Re: [Mpi3-tools] New lead for MPI tools group
by Bronis R. de Supinski 25 Jan '13

25 Jan '13

Great! Sorry I won't make it. On Fri, 25 Jan 2013, Kathryn Mohror wrote: > Hi Bronis, > >> I would like to see things like the introspection interface, >> message queues and MPIR 2.0 in the main standard. I thought >> that was the plan with the MPIR document being an interim >> step until the evolved interface could be designed and >> standardized. I would hope that MPI Next would provide >> the right opportunity to pursue these goals. > > That's what I recalled for MPIR as well. However, I was unclear on what the plan for the handle introspection and message queue interfaces was. > > I will bring this up for discussion at the next call. > > Kathryn > >> >> Bronis >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 22 Jan 2013, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: >> >>> On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Mohror, Kathryn" <mohror1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> - Handle Introspection Interface (like MPIR document?) >>> >>> Cisco and Microsoft are actively working on this (and we're trying to rope some debugger vendors in, too). >>> >>> We hope to have something to show at the next physical meeting. We'll see if we have enough time to make that happen... >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Squyres >>> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >>> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mpi3-tools mailing list >>> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > >

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] New lead for MPI tools group
by Kathryn Mohror 25 Jan '13

25 Jan '13

Hi Bronis, > I would like to see things like the introspection interface, > message queues and MPIR 2.0 in the main standard. I thought > that was the plan with the MPIR document being an interim > step until the evolved interface could be designed and > standardized. I would hope that MPI Next would provide > the right opportunity to pursue these goals. That's what I recalled for MPIR as well. However, I was unclear on what the plan for the handle introspection and message queue interfaces was. I will bring this up for discussion at the next call. Kathryn > > Bronis > > > > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2013, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > >> On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Mohror, Kathryn" <mohror1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >> >>> - Handle Introspection Interface (like MPIR document?) >> >> Cisco and Microsoft are actively working on this (and we're trying to rope some debugger vendors in, too). >> >> We hope to have something to show at the next physical meeting. We'll see if we have enough time to make that happen... >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >> > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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[Mpi3-tools] Next TelCon, Monday February 4th, 8:00 PST
by Kathryn Mohror 25 Jan '13

25 Jan '13

Hello all, Our next tools telecon will be on Monday, February 4th at 8:00 AM PST. The agenda items include: - Discussion of MPI-3.1 items brought up at last Forum meeting and any other issues people have discovered in MPI_T - Review/Discussion of status of debugging interfaces: handle introspection interface, message queue interface, and MPIR-2 The login information for WebEx is on the Wiki: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] New lead for MPI tools group
by Bronis R. de Supinski 22 Jan '13

22 Jan '13

Kathryn: I would like to see things like the introspection interface, message queues and MPIR 2.0 in the main standard. I thought that was the plan with the MPIR document being an interim step until the evolved interface could be designed and standardized. I would hope that MPI Next would provide the right opportunity to pursue these goals. Bronis On Tue, 22 Jan 2013, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Mohror, Kathryn" <mohror1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > >> - Handle Introspection Interface (like MPIR document?) > > Cisco and Microsoft are actively working on this (and we're trying to rope some debugger vendors in, too). > > We hope to have something to show at the next physical meeting. We'll see if we have enough time to make that happen... > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] New lead for MPI tools group
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 22 Jan '13

22 Jan '13

On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Mohror, Kathryn" <mohror1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > - Handle Introspection Interface (like MPIR document?) Cisco and Microsoft are actively working on this (and we're trying to rope some debugger vendors in, too). We hope to have something to show at the next physical meeting. We'll see if we have enough time to make that happen... -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] New lead for MPI tools group
by Mohror, Kathryn 21 Jan '13

21 Jan '13

Hi Marc-Andre, all, Yes, we have a few items that have been on the back burner for a while, and some that were brought up at the last forum meeting. The items from the last meeting: - Errata - clarify that any thread can call MPI_T_Init_thread - 3.1 - Look up CVAR,PVAR variables by name - Allocation routines return variable length counts, dynamic - Add passing of NULL for pointers - MPI_Pcontrol extensions Items for 4.0: - Message Queue Interface document (like MPIR document) - Handle Introspection Interface (like MPIR document?) - Rework the debug/MPIR interface? Also, the FT working group is looking at the piggybacking interface. It will be good to stay on top of that since piggybacking will be useful for tools. Are there other topics that should be on this list? I plan on setting up a telecon at the same time we used to have them, alternating Mondays at 8:00 AM PT starting Feb 4. I'll send out an announcement and call in information in advance. Kathryn On Jan 21, 2013, at 4:56 AM, Marc-Andre Hermanns <m.a.hermanns(a)grs-sim.de<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Martin, Kathryn, With taking on the chair role for MPI 3.1/4.0, I asked Kathryn Mohror to take over the role as the WG lead for tools in the MPI 3.1 and 4.0 efforts. She has been very active during our WG so far and has graciously agreed to drive the upcoming efforts. She will send out more information on future meetings in the coming days. Martin, it was a pleasure working with you on this. I wish you all the best for chairing MPI 3.1/4.0. Thank you for all your hard work on the various topics during the MPI 3.0 efforts (incl. the MPI_T interface and the MPIR document) and I am looking forward to working with Kathryn and all of you during the MPI 3.1/4.0 process. Kathryn, do you already have a tentative agenda for the tools group in 3.1/4.0? Cheers, Marc-Andre -- Marc-Andre Hermanns German Research School for Simulation Sciences GmbH c/o Laboratory for Parallel Programming 52062 Aachen | Germany Tel +49 241 80 99753 Fax +49 241 80 6 99753 Web www.grs-sim.de<http://www.grs-sim.de> Members: Forschungszentrum Jülich GmbH | RWTH Aachen University Registered in the commercial register of the local court of Düren (Amtsgericht Düren) under registration number HRB 5268 Registered office: Jülich Executive board: Prof. Marek Behr, Ph.D | Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt _______________________________________________ Mpi3-tools mailing list Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] New lead for MPI tools group
by Marc-Andre Hermanns 21 Jan '13

21 Jan '13

Martin, Kathryn, > With taking on the chair role for MPI 3.1/4.0, I asked Kathryn Mohror > to take over the role as the WG lead for tools in the MPI 3.1 and 4.0 > efforts. She has been very active during our WG so far and has > graciously agreed to drive the upcoming efforts. She will send out > more information on future meetings in the coming days. Martin, it was a pleasure working with you on this. I wish you all the best for chairing MPI 3.1/4.0. > Thank you for all your hard work on the various topics during the MPI > 3.0 efforts (incl. the MPI_T interface and the MPIR document) and I > am looking forward to working with Kathryn and all of you during the MPI > 3.1/4.0 process. Kathryn, do you already have a tentative agenda for the tools group in 3.1/4.0? Cheers, Marc-Andre -- Marc-Andre Hermanns German Research School for Simulation Sciences GmbH c/o Laboratory for Parallel Programming 52062 Aachen | Germany Tel +49 241 80 99753 Fax +49 241 80 6 99753 Web www.grs-sim.de Members: Forschungszentrum Jülich GmbH | RWTH Aachen University Registered in the commercial register of the local court of Düren (Amtsgericht Düren) under registration number HRB 5268 Registered office: Jülich Executive board: Prof. Marek Behr, Ph.D | Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt

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[Mpi3-tools] New lead for MPI tools group
by Schulz, Martin 19 Jan '13

19 Jan '13

Hi all, With taking on the chair role for MPI 3.1/4.0, I asked Kathryn Mohror to take over the role as the WG lead for tools in the MPI 3.1 and 4.0 efforts. She has been very active during our WG so far and has graciously agreed to drive the upcoming efforts. She will send out more information on future meetings in the coming days. Thank you for all your hard work on the various topics during the MPI 3.0 efforts (incl. the MPI_T interface and the MPIR document) and I am looking forward to working with Kathryn and all of you during the MPI 3.1/4.0 process. Martin ________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

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[Mpi3-tools] Ticket #354
by Rolf Rabenseifner 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

If you want to do #354, i.e., to remove the MPI_T_... constants from the Fortran interfaces (mpif.h, mpi module, mpi_f08 module), then you should do it now and rename your ticket title to MPI-3.0 Errata: MPI_T constants erroneously listed for Fortran You should put it on the agenda and vote on it in the next meeting. Keep in mind: - If you want to have these constants also for Fortran-written wrappers available, you can re-introduce them in MPI-next, but then also with the appropriate interface for the MPI_T_... handles. - If you do not have both, then it is only very partially useful in Fortran-written profiling layers. - Therefore, i expect that it is only a copy&paste bug that MPI-3.0 defines the constants also for Fortran. - You should do it as fast as possible as MPI-3.0 errata, because a removal in MPI-next would be a non-backward-compatible change. Best regards Rolf -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307)

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