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[Mpi3-tools] Cancel next telecon April 4
by Kathryn Mohror 29 Mar '13

29 Mar '13

Hi all, Due to at least a couple absences, we will cancel our telecon on April 4. We will resume the regular schedule on April 18. Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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[Mpi3-tools] Notes from the Forum meeting and next telecon
by Kathryn Mohror 18 Mar '13

18 Mar '13

Hi all, As a reminder, the next telecon is this Thursday at 8:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT. As always, the webex information is on the wiki page: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools Agenda: - Discuss highlights from the Forum meeting related to tools for those who couldn't attend - Threading issues - Debugging interface documents - Typo ticket #368 - Other items? - Possible topics depending on who calls in - MPIR 1.1 additions (resource manager) - MQS - MPI_T 3.1 changes Additionally, some notes from the working group meeting at the Forum are here: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools/notes-2013-03-12 Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] INITIALIZED et al: there's already a ticket
by Schulz, Martin 12 Mar '13

12 Mar '13

Yes, I forgot about that - it's on the agenda for tomorrow as a potential 3.1 addition. Martin On Mar 12, 2013, at 2:41 PM, "Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)" <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > See https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/357. > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/schulzm CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

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[Mpi3-tools] INITIALIZED et al: there's already a ticket
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 12 Mar '13

12 Mar '13

See https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/357. -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Webex for the Forum next week?
by Kathryn Mohror 12 Mar '13

12 Mar '13

Hi all, If there's anyone who wants to join the working group meeting by webex in about 15 minutes, here is the link: https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=218282412&UID=0&PW=NMjBmM2QxNTI… If you want to join, please send me an email so we can make sure we in Chicago join too. Kathryn On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi all, > >> We have the tools working group meeting at the forum scheduled for Tuesday March 12 from 10:15 AM - 12:00 PM CST. Would anyone who is unable to attend the forum like us to set up a webex so you can call in? > > I made a mistake. The time for the meeting is 10:15 AM - 12:00 PM *CDT* since daylight savings kicks in on March 10 in the US. Thanks to John for catching my error! > > Kathryn > >> >> If you would like to call in, please let me know ASAP so we can try to get it set up. >> >> Kathryn >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Typo in MPI-3 MPIT interface
by Rolf Rabenseifner 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

If you put a typo in a ticket, you still can include in the ticket the Remark: This typo should not go to the offcial errata pdf document on the web because it is only a typo. Then it is not going into the errata pdf. Example, see typo MPI-3.0 Section 17.1.2 (mpi_f08 module), page 600 lines 18-20 read in ticket 345 https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/345 This is a very helpful method to keep the errata document as small as possible, and to not forget these ugly typos. Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Gropp" <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> > To: mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 5:53:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Mpi3-tools] Typo in MPI-3 MPIT interface > Following prior MPI errata, we did create errata items for typos. > > > I think the basic rules are simple: > > > 1. If we are listing errata for a published version of the standard, > then we vote on them as errata. They are listed in the errata > document, even typos. > > > 2. While creating a new version of the standard, committees (such as > chapter committees) should take responsibility for producing text, > with voting rules applied to the chapter and major changes (such as > new routines). Note that the typos get voted upon as part of the > chapter. > > > In both cases, the goal is to focus on the substantive issues. > > > Bill > > > > > > > William Gropp > Director, Parallel Computing Institute > Deputy Director for Research > Institute for Advanced Computing Applications and Technologies Thomas > M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > > > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > > > > I have no idea. :-) The current rules are so loosey-goosey that I'm > not sure what requires a ticket, what can just be read, ...etc. This > fix obviously fits in the "trivial / doesn't change semantics" > category, but I'm honestly not sure what the next step is... > > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Kathryn Mohror < kathryn(a)llnl.gov > > wrote: > > > > Good catch Jeff! How did that get by so many eyes? > > > > > > So, since it's really just a typo, do we need to create an errata > entry for it? > > > > > > Kathryn > > > > > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) < > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > I just noticed the following typo: MPI-3 p582, line 21. > > > > > > > > > > In "MPI_T_UMQ_LENGTH": > > > > > > > > > > - the first quote is facing the wrong way > > > > > - only the first M is the appropriate font; the rest of the name is in > the wrong font > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jeff Squyres > > > > > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > > > > > For corporate legal information go to: > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Mpi3-tools mailing list > > > > > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > > > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov , http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > > > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mpi3-tools mailing list > > > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307)

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Typo in MPI-3 MPIT interface
by William Gropp 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

Following prior MPI errata, we did create errata items for typos. I think the basic rules are simple: 1. If we are listing errata for a published version of the standard, then we vote on them as errata. They are listed in the errata document, even typos. 2. While creating a new version of the standard, committees (such as chapter committees) should take responsibility for producing text, with voting rules applied to the chapter and major changes (such as new routines). Note that the typos get voted upon as part of the chapter. In both cases, the goal is to focus on the substantive issues. Bill William Gropp Director, Parallel Computing Institute Deputy Director for Research Institute for Advanced Computing Applications and Technologies Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign On Mar 8, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > I have no idea. :-) The current rules are so loosey-goosey that I'm not sure what requires a ticket, what can just be read, ...etc. This fix obviously fits in the "trivial / doesn't change semantics" category, but I'm honestly not sure what the next step is... > > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > >> Good catch Jeff! How did that get by so many eyes? >> >> So, since it's really just a typo, do we need to create an errata entry for it? >> >> Kathryn >> >> On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: >> >>> I just noticed the following typo: MPI-3 p582, line 21. >>> >>> In "MPI_T_UMQ_LENGTH": >>> >>> - the first quote is facing the wrong way >>> - only the first M is the appropriate font; the rest of the name is in the wrong font >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Squyres >>> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >>> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mpi3-tools mailing list >>> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Typo in MPI-3 MPIT interface
by Kathryn Mohror 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

Yeah, the new voting rules document doesn't mention this sort of error. At least according to my interpretation of 2.3.3, this doesn't fall into the category of a "critical" change to a document, so it shouldn't be subject to those stricter rules. Whatever the next step is, I'm sure we'll spend a good deal of time arguing over it :-) Kathryn On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > I have no idea. :-) The current rules are so loosey-goosey that I'm not sure what requires a ticket, what can just be read, ...etc. This fix obviously fits in the "trivial / doesn't change semantics" category, but I'm honestly not sure what the next step is... > > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > >> Good catch Jeff! How did that get by so many eyes? >> >> So, since it's really just a typo, do we need to create an errata entry for it? >> >> Kathryn >> >> On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: >> >>> I just noticed the following typo: MPI-3 p582, line 21. >>> >>> In "MPI_T_UMQ_LENGTH": >>> >>> - the first quote is facing the wrong way >>> - only the first M is the appropriate font; the rest of the name is in the wrong font >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Squyres >>> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >>> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mpi3-tools mailing list >>> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Typo in MPI-3 MPIT interface
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

I have no idea. :-) The current rules are so loosey-goosey that I'm not sure what requires a ticket, what can just be read, ...etc. This fix obviously fits in the "trivial / doesn't change semantics" category, but I'm honestly not sure what the next step is... On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Good catch Jeff! How did that get by so many eyes? > > So, since it's really just a typo, do we need to create an errata entry for it? > > Kathryn > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > >> I just noticed the following typo: MPI-3 p582, line 21. >> >> In "MPI_T_UMQ_LENGTH": >> >> - the first quote is facing the wrong way >> - only the first M is the appropriate font; the rest of the name is in the wrong font >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mpi3-tools mailing list >> Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi3-tools] Typo in MPI-3 MPIT interface
by Kathryn Mohror 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

Good catch Jeff! How did that get by so many eyes? So, since it's really just a typo, do we need to create an errata entry for it? Kathryn On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > I just noticed the following typo: MPI-3 p582, line 21. > > In "MPI_T_UMQ_LENGTH": > > - the first quote is facing the wrong way > - only the first M is the appropriate font; the rest of the name is in the wrong font > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Mpi3-tools mailing list > Mpi3-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-tools ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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