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Please send me your slides
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 10 Dec '14

10 Dec '14

If you presented any slides this week, please send them to me. Thanks. -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Need to arrive early?
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 08 Dec '14

08 Dec '14

I'm already at the Cisco conference room, so if anyone wants to come early and enjoy better wifi than you have at your hotel, feel free. I'll probably disappear from noon-1pm or so for lunch and won't be able to let you in during that time, but I'll otherwise be here. Sent from my phone. No type good.

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Re: [Mpi-forum] WG-Terms and WG-Fortran discussions - Re: Agenda posted
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 04 Dec '14

04 Dec '14

Yeah, we can get rooms -- no prob. On Dec 3, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Martin Schulz <schulzm(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > If the Fortran WG want to meet on Tuesday evening after the plenary, > that¹s fine with me. Jeff would have to say, though, if rooms are > available that late. > > Martin > > > On 12/4/14, 5:40 AM, "Craig Rasmussen" <craigerasmussen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> If it would be helpful, yes, I will be in the San Jose area and can make >> a Tuesday evening meeting. >> >> -craig >> >> >>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 2:59 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Craig, >>> >>> do you come to San Jose? >>> >>>> Can we switch the WG Fortran meeting to late Tuesday afternoon >>> This is hard, because there we will have Forum planary. >>> >>>> or Tuesday evening? >>> Sounds better. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Rolf >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Craig Rasmussen" <craigerasmussen(a)gmail.com> >>>> To: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> >>>> Cc: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>, >>>> "Martin Schulz" <schulzm(a)llnl.gov>, "Jeff Squyres" >>>> <jsquyres(a)cisco.com>, "Bill Gropp" <wgropp(a)uiuc.edu>, "Jeff Hammond" >>>> <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>, "Richard Graham" >>>> <richardg(a)mellanox.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 7:36:04 PM >>>> Subject: Re: WG-Terms and WG-Fortran discussions - Re: [Mpi-forum] >>>> Agenda posted >>>> >>>> Can we switch the WG Fortran meeting to late Tuesday afternoon or >>>> Tuesday >>>> evening? >>>> >>>> I¹m visiting LLNL next week and have that time available. >>>> >>>> -craig >>>> >>>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Martin, Jeff, Craig, Bill, Jeff, Rich, and all, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to make two small WG meetings at San Jose, >>>>> mainly to resolve ticket-0 stuff: >>>>> >>>>> - WG Fortran, probably on Monday evening (maybe 5:30-6:00pm) >>>>> if my flight arrives on time: #440, #443, #446 >>>>> >>>>> - WG Chap.2 Terms, probably during Tuesday Lunch break 12:00pm-1:00pm >>>>> because it is only very small business: >>>>> #450, #452, #453, #455 >>>>> I hope that there will be some volunteers for serving >>>>> as member of the Chap-2 Terms chapter committee. >>>>> >>>>> As Jeff already mentioned, such a small committee Meetings >>>>> may prohibit to waste forum time with such small readings. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Rolf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Schulz Martin" <schulzm(a)llnl.gov> >>>>>> To: "Main mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:04:26 PM >>>>>> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Agenda posted >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I posted a first version of the agenda for the December MPI forum >>>>>> based on >>>>>> the input I have gotten so far. It¹s at: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/secretary/2014/12/agenda.php >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if I missed anything or if you still have >>>>>> additional >>>>>> requests. Also, please keep in mind that the deadline for announcing >>>>>> errata >>>>>> items, readings, and votes is next Monday (today in one week!). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Martin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> __ >>>>>> Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov , http://scalability.llnl.gov/ >>>>>> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> mpi-forum mailing list >>>>>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>>>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de >>>>> High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 >>>>> University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 >>>>> Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner >>>>> Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de >>> High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 >>> University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 >>> Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner >>> Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) >> > > -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket
by Martin Schulz 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

Hi Jim, Yes, assuming we leave things as planned (just shifted by one meeting due to the missed quorum), the meeting next week is the cutoff for errata tickets to be included and we would vote on the entire standard at the March meeting next year. As for the info keys proposal sure, we¹ll move this forward as an MPI 4.0 ticket. Martin From: Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: Main mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 at 1:24 AM To: Main mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket Martin, Thanks for the correction -- I thought that the deadline for 3.1 readings was Japan, and that it moved ahead a meeting because of the quorum issue. I guess I confused this with the errata deadline? In any case, the info keys proposal is done and we should move it forward, even though it may miss the 3.1 cutoff. ~Jim. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Martin Schulz <schulzm(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi Jim, all, > > This ticket is on the agenda now as a reading (plenary) and we can certainly > discuss the larger implications and how/where to handle this in the future. > > However, note that based on the current timeline, this won¹t make it into MPI > 3.1. At the moment, MPI 3.1 is slated to be completed in March. We can, of > course, decide to change that, but if we allow new tickets this meeting for > 3.1, this would push the a final version at least to September. > > Martin > > > From: Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com> > Reply-To: Main mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 3:05 AM > To: Main mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket > > Just wanted to respond to the incomplete comment -- > > The intention with the info keys ticket was always to bring forward each info > key or info key topic as a separate ticket. I know there are a lot of info > keys left that are very important, and hopefully we can continue to reach > consensus and bring them forward to be voted on. The wildcards info key > proposal really represents the start of that process and should chart the > course for future proposals. > > ~Jim. > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Richard Graham <richardg(a)mellanox.com> > wrote: >> It has some of the interested parties, not all. I am interested in such >> items, and thought that the whole topic had fallen off the plate, so was very >> surprised to hear there is a concrete proposal, which in my view is >> incomplete. >> >> Rich >> >> >> From: mpi-forum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Jeff Hammond >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:29 AM >> To: Main MPI Forum mailing list >> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket >> >> >> >> Hybrid WG already had all the interested parties and was active. I don't >> recall p2p WG was particularly active when discussion of 381 started ~2 years >> ago. >> >> >> >> As always, every member of the forum can participate in any WG and 381/461 >> were always discussed in the open for anyone to see. >> >> >> >> As it currently stands, p2p WG has more than enough to discuss without this >> ticket. >> >> >> >> Note also that some of the info keys discussed have a greater impact when >> threads are involved, hence are connected to hybrid. >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Richard Graham <richardg(a)mellanox.com> wrote: >>> >>> Why is such a proposal coming out of the hybrid working group ? This is >>> more appropriate for the point-to-point working group. Not that it is that >>> critical what the group name is, but more to get feedback from a wide range >>> of folks interested is such topics. >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> From: mpi-forum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Jim Dinan >>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:58 AM >>> To: Main MPI Forum mailing list >>> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> >>> >>> The hybrid working group would like to put forward ticket #461 >>> (https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/461) for consideration >>> for MPI 3.1, with a formal reading at the upcoming December meeting. >>> >>> >>> >>> This ticket proposes the no_any_tag and no_any_source info keys, on which we >>> have achieved consensus. We continue to have vigorous and productive debate >>> on additional communicator info keys proposals that have been captured in >>> #381. We will pursue these additional proposals for MPI 4.0. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks and see you in December, >>> >>> ~Jim. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpi-forum mailing list >>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum

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Re: [Mpi-forum] WG-Terms and WG-Fortran discussions - Re: Agenda posted
by Martin Schulz 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

If the Fortran WG want to meet on Tuesday evening after the plenary, that¹s fine with me. Jeff would have to say, though, if rooms are available that late. Martin On 12/4/14, 5:40 AM, "Craig Rasmussen" <craigerasmussen(a)gmail.com> wrote: >If it would be helpful, yes, I will be in the San Jose area and can make >a Tuesday evening meeting. > >-craig > > >> On Dec 3, 2014, at 2:59 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> >>wrote: >> >> Craig, >> >> do you come to San Jose? >> >>> Can we switch the WG Fortran meeting to late Tuesday afternoon >> This is hard, because there we will have Forum planary. >> >>> or Tuesday evening? >> Sounds better. >> >> Best regards >> Rolf >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Craig Rasmussen" <craigerasmussen(a)gmail.com> >>> To: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> >>> Cc: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>, >>>"Martin Schulz" <schulzm(a)llnl.gov>, "Jeff Squyres" >>> <jsquyres(a)cisco.com>, "Bill Gropp" <wgropp(a)uiuc.edu>, "Jeff Hammond" >>><jeff.science(a)gmail.com>, "Richard Graham" >>> <richardg(a)mellanox.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 7:36:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: WG-Terms and WG-Fortran discussions - Re: [Mpi-forum] >>>Agenda posted >>> >>> Can we switch the WG Fortran meeting to late Tuesday afternoon or >>>Tuesday >>> evening? >>> >>> I¹m visiting LLNL next week and have that time available. >>> >>> -craig >>> >>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Martin, Jeff, Craig, Bill, Jeff, Rich, and all, >>>> >>>> I would like to make two small WG meetings at San Jose, >>>> mainly to resolve ticket-0 stuff: >>>> >>>> - WG Fortran, probably on Monday evening (maybe 5:30-6:00pm) >>>> if my flight arrives on time: #440, #443, #446 >>>> >>>> - WG Chap.2 Terms, probably during Tuesday Lunch break 12:00pm-1:00pm >>>> because it is only very small business: >>>> #450, #452, #453, #455 >>>> I hope that there will be some volunteers for serving >>>> as member of the Chap-2 Terms chapter committee. >>>> >>>> As Jeff already mentioned, such a small committee Meetings >>>> may prohibit to waste forum time with such small readings. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Rolf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Schulz Martin" <schulzm(a)llnl.gov> >>>>> To: "Main mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:04:26 PM >>>>> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Agenda posted >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I posted a first version of the agenda for the December MPI forum >>>>>based on >>>>> the input I have gotten so far. It¹s at: >>>>> >>>>> http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/secretary/2014/12/agenda.php >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if I missed anything or if you still have >>>>>additional >>>>> requests. Also, please keep in mind that the deadline for announcing >>>>> errata >>>>> items, readings, and votes is next Monday (today in one week!). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>__ >>>>> Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov , http://scalability.llnl.gov/ >>>>> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> mpi-forum mailing list >>>>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de >>>> High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 >>>> University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 >>>> Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner >>>> Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de >> High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 >> University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 >> Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner >> Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) >

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Re: [Mpi-forum] WG-Terms and WG-Fortran discussions - Re: Agenda posted
by Rolf Rabenseifner 03 Dec '14

03 Dec '14

Craig, do you come to San Jose? > Can we switch the WG Fortran meeting to late Tuesday afternoon This is hard, because there we will have Forum planary. > or Tuesday evening? Sounds better. Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Rasmussen" <craigerasmussen(a)gmail.com> > To: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > Cc: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>, "Martin Schulz" <schulzm(a)llnl.gov>, "Jeff Squyres" > <jsquyres(a)cisco.com>, "Bill Gropp" <wgropp(a)uiuc.edu>, "Jeff Hammond" <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>, "Richard Graham" > <richardg(a)mellanox.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 7:36:04 PM > Subject: Re: WG-Terms and WG-Fortran discussions - Re: [Mpi-forum] Agenda posted > > Can we switch the WG Fortran meeting to late Tuesday afternoon or Tuesday > evening? > > I’m visiting LLNL next week and have that time available. > > -craig > > > On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > > wrote: > > > > Dear Martin, Jeff, Craig, Bill, Jeff, Rich, and all, > > > > I would like to make two small WG meetings at San Jose, > > mainly to resolve ticket-0 stuff: > > > > - WG Fortran, probably on Monday evening (maybe 5:30-6:00pm) > > if my flight arrives on time: #440, #443, #446 > > > > - WG Chap.2 Terms, probably during Tuesday Lunch break 12:00pm-1:00pm > > because it is only very small business: > > #450, #452, #453, #455 > > I hope that there will be some volunteers for serving > > as member of the Chap-2 Terms chapter committee. > > > > As Jeff already mentioned, such a small committee Meetings > > may prohibit to waste forum time with such small readings. > > > > Best regards > > Rolf > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Schulz Martin" <schulzm(a)llnl.gov> > >> To: "Main mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > >> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:04:26 PM > >> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Agenda posted > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I posted a first version of the agenda for the December MPI forum based on > >> the input I have gotten so far. It’s at: > >> > >> http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/secretary/2014/12/agenda.php > >> > >> Please let me know if I missed anything or if you still have additional > >> requests. Also, please keep in mind that the deadline for announcing > >> errata > >> items, readings, and votes is next Monday (today in one week!). > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Martin > >> > >> > >> ________________________________________________________________________ > >> Martin Schulz, schulzm(a)llnl.gov , http://scalability.llnl.gov/ > >> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mpi-forum mailing list > >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > > -- > > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 > > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 > > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) > > -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Ticket 448
by William Gropp 02 Dec '14

02 Dec '14

I agree. These are the sorts of things that should be done by the chapter committees. Bill On Dec 2, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Having read https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/448, I > don't see how there could be any debate on whether or not this is an > errata (or ticket-0) and don't think it's worth time to invite one. > > I am concerned that we're going to spend many hours on Rolf's minor > corrections to the standard as it is, so I'd like to minimize any > unnecessary overhead for these. > > Jeff > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> wrote: >> Hi Martin and Wesley, >> >> I would like to discuss it first in person with >> members at the meeting in San Jose >> and then take it as MPI-3.1 or MPI-4.0 or MPI3.0-erratum or Chap-2 ticket-0. >> >> Best regards >> Rolf >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Martin Schulz" <schulzm(a)llnl.gov> >>> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 5:50:54 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Ticket 448 >>> >>> Hi Wesley, Rolf, >>> >>> I added this on the agenda based on Rolf¹s request - Rolf: looking at the >>> notes, we looked at this ticket at the Kobe meeting and decided that this >>> shouldn¹t be an errata item and that we were suggesting to handle this as >>> a new ticket for 4.0. Do you agree with this or do you want to advocate >>> that this should be errata? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> On 12/2/14, 2:27 AM, "Bland, Wesley B." <wbland(a)anl.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> Martin / Rolf, >>>> >>>> I see on the agenda that we¹re voting on 448 as an errata. When I look at >>>> the ticket, it¹s marked as a 4.0 ticket. Can you clarify how we¹ll be >>>> voting for this in San Jose next week? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Wesley >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> mpi-forum mailing list >>>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpi-forum mailing list >>> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >>> >> >> -- >> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de >> High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 >> University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 >> Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner >> Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > > -- > Jeff Hammond > jeff.science(a)gmail.com > http://jeffhammond.github.io/ > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket
by Jim Dinan 02 Dec '14

02 Dec '14

Martin, Thanks for the correction -- I thought that the deadline for 3.1 readings was Japan, and that it moved ahead a meeting because of the quorum issue. I guess I confused this with the errata deadline? In any case, the info keys proposal is done and we should move it forward, even though it may miss the 3.1 cutoff. ~Jim. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Martin Schulz <schulzm(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi Jim, all, > > This ticket is on the agenda now as a reading (plenary) and we can > certainly discuss the larger implications and how/where to handle this in > the future. > > However, note that based on the current timeline, this won’t make it into > MPI 3.1. At the moment, MPI 3.1 is slated to be completed in March. We can, > of course, decide to change that, but if we allow new tickets this meeting > for 3.1, this would push the a final version at least to September. > > Martin > > > From: Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com> > Reply-To: Main mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 3:05 AM > To: Main mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket > > Just wanted to respond to the incomplete comment -- > > The intention with the info keys ticket was always to bring forward each > info key or info key topic as a separate ticket. I know there are a lot of > info keys left that are very important, and hopefully we can continue to > reach consensus and bring them forward to be voted on. The wildcards info > key proposal really represents the start of that process and should chart > the course for future proposals. > > ~Jim. > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Richard Graham <richardg(a)mellanox.com> > wrote: > >> It has some of the interested parties, not all. I am interested in such >> items, and thought that the whole topic had fallen off the plate, so was >> very surprised to hear there is a concrete proposal, which in my view is >> incomplete. >> >> >> >> Rich >> >> >> >> *From:* mpi-forum [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Jeff Hammond >> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 3:29 AM >> *To:* Main MPI Forum mailing list >> *Subject:* Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket >> >> >> >> Hybrid WG already had all the interested parties and was active. I don't >> recall p2p WG was particularly active when discussion of 381 started ~2 >> years ago. >> >> >> >> As always, every member of the forum can participate in any WG and >> 381/461 were always discussed in the open for anyone to see. >> >> >> >> As it currently stands, p2p WG has more than enough to discuss without >> this ticket. >> >> >> >> Note also that some of the info keys discussed have a greater impact when >> threads are involved, hence are connected to hybrid. >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Richard Graham <richardg(a)mellanox.com> >> wrote: >> >> Why is such a proposal coming out of the hybrid working group ? This is >> more appropriate for the point-to-point working group. Not that it is that >> critical what the group name is, but more to get feedback from a wide range >> of folks interested is such topics. >> >> >> >> Rich >> >> >> >> *From:* mpi-forum [mailto:[email protected] >> <mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>] *On Behalf Of *Jim Dinan >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:58 AM >> *To:* Main MPI Forum mailing list >> *Subject:* [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> The hybrid working group would like to put forward ticket #461 ( >> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/461) for >> consideration for MPI 3.1, with a formal reading at the upcoming December >> meeting. >> >> >> >> This ticket proposes the no_any_tag and no_any_source info keys, on which >> we have achieved consensus. We continue to have vigorous and productive >> debate on additional communicator info keys proposals that have been >> captured in #381. We will pursue these additional proposals for MPI 4.0. >> >> >> >> Thanks and see you in December, >> >> ~Jim. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Ticket 448
by Jeff Hammond 02 Dec '14

02 Dec '14

Having read https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/448, I don't see how there could be any debate on whether or not this is an errata (or ticket-0) and don't think it's worth time to invite one. I am concerned that we're going to spend many hours on Rolf's minor corrections to the standard as it is, so I'd like to minimize any unnecessary overhead for these. Jeff On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> wrote: > Hi Martin and Wesley, > > I would like to discuss it first in person with > members at the meeting in San Jose > and then take it as MPI-3.1 or MPI-4.0 or MPI3.0-erratum or Chap-2 ticket-0. > > Best regards > Rolf > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Martin Schulz" <schulzm(a)llnl.gov> >> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 5:50:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Ticket 448 >> >> Hi Wesley, Rolf, >> >> I added this on the agenda based on Rolf¹s request - Rolf: looking at the >> notes, we looked at this ticket at the Kobe meeting and decided that this >> shouldn¹t be an errata item and that we were suggesting to handle this as >> a new ticket for 4.0. Do you agree with this or do you want to advocate >> that this should be errata? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Martin >> >> >> On 12/2/14, 2:27 AM, "Bland, Wesley B." <wbland(a)anl.gov> wrote: >> >> >Martin / Rolf, >> > >> >I see on the agenda that we¹re voting on 448 as an errata. When I look at >> >the ticket, it¹s marked as a 4.0 ticket. Can you clarify how we¹ll be >> >voting for this in San Jose next week? >> > >> >Thanks, >> >Wesley >> >_______________________________________________ >> >mpi-forum mailing list >> >mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi-forum mailing list >> mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum >> > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Jeff Hammond jeff.science(a)gmail.com http://jeffhammond.github.io/

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Re: [Mpi-forum] Ticket 448
by Rolf Rabenseifner 02 Dec '14

02 Dec '14

Hi Martin and Wesley, I would like to discuss it first in person with members at the meeting in San Jose and then take it as MPI-3.1 or MPI-4.0 or MPI3.0-erratum or Chap-2 ticket-0. Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Schulz" <schulzm(a)llnl.gov> > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 5:50:54 AM > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Ticket 448 > > Hi Wesley, Rolf, > > I added this on the agenda based on Rolf¹s request - Rolf: looking at the > notes, we looked at this ticket at the Kobe meeting and decided that this > shouldn¹t be an errata item and that we were suggesting to handle this as > a new ticket for 4.0. Do you agree with this or do you want to advocate > that this should be errata? > > Thanks! > > Martin > > > On 12/2/14, 2:27 AM, "Bland, Wesley B." <wbland(a)anl.gov> wrote: > > >Martin / Rolf, > > > >I see on the agenda that we¹re voting on 448 as an errata. When I look at > >the ticket, it¹s marked as a 4.0 ticket. Can you clarify how we¹ll be > >voting for this in San Jose next week? > > > >Thanks, > >Wesley > >_______________________________________________ > >mpi-forum mailing list > >mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307)

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