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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by Rolf Rabenseifner 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

For me, Atlanta is also a bad option. Is there any reason not to make the schedule starting with CA? Feb 07-09 California Mar 28-30 Chicago May 09-10 California (not May 16-17 due to IPDPS) (not May 23-25 due to CUG) Jul 18-20 Chicago Sep xx-yy together with EuroMPI (not Nov 13-18 ??? due to SC - who knows exact date?) Dec 05-07 California I hope, I have not moved some dates without need, i.e., correctly representing the state of current discussion. Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Hammond" <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> > To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2010 4:24:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings > I find Chicago quite pleasant except for December 15 to January 5, > when I know the Forum will not meet. While it may be cold, there is > frequently plenty of sunshine. If you're inside a building, it might > as well be Hawaii outside. > > I plan to never attend a meeting in Atlanta because my past > experiences with Delta and/or that airport have all been terrible. > > Jeff > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> > wrote: > > On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Torsten Hoefler wrote: > > > >> > At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more > >> > people > >> > speak up. > >> I think it is unreasonable to expect that a majority of the Forum > >> will > >> speak up via email (or even read this thread :-). It would be > >> reasonable > >> to do statistical sampling. I heard 4 people against Atlanta and 0 > >> in > >> favor so far. Speak up! > > > > I prefer California and Chicago to Atlanta. Atlanta is certainly > > not a deal-breaker for me, but I do prefer the other two. > > > > -- > > Jeff Squyres > > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > > For corporate legal information go to: > > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpi-forum mailing list > > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > > > > > > -- > Jeff Hammond > Argonne Leadership Computing Facility > jhammond(a)mcs.anl.gov / (630) 252-5381 > http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffhammond > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30) -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . (Office: Allmandring 30)

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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by Brian Smith 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

It is a lot easier (and cheaper) for me to get to the Chicago meetings. I'm not sure if the east coast IBMers find Atlanta any easier than Chicago. I imagine it is about the same. Brian Smith (smithbr(a)us.ibm.com) BlueGene MPI Development/ Communications Team Lead IBM Rochester Phone: 507 253 4717 From: Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> To: Main MPI Forum mailing list <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Date: 07/08/2010 09:26 AM Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings Sent by: mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org I find Chicago quite pleasant except for December 15 to January 5, when I know the Forum will not meet. While it may be cold, there is frequently plenty of sunshine. If you're inside a building, it might as well be Hawaii outside. I plan to never attend a meeting in Atlanta because my past experiences with Delta and/or that airport have all been terrible. Jeff On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Torsten Hoefler wrote: > >> > At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more people >> > speak up. >> I think it is unreasonable to expect that a majority of the Forum will >> speak up via email (or even read this thread :-). It would be reasonable >> to do statistical sampling. I heard 4 people against Atlanta and 0 in >> favor so far. Speak up! > > I prefer California and Chicago to Atlanta. Atlanta is certainly not a deal-breaker for me, but I do prefer the other two. > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > -- Jeff Hammond Argonne Leadership Computing Facility jhammond(a)mcs.anl.gov / (630) 252-5381 http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffhammond _______________________________________________ mpi-forum mailing list mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum

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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by Dave Goodell 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:37 AM CDT, Graham, Richard L. wrote: > At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more people speak up. The CA and Chicago venues that we normally use are better than the ATL hotel we had last time. I would prefer not meeting in Atlanta unless we can be sure it will work as well as the other two locations. -Dave

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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by Jeff Hammond 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

I find Chicago quite pleasant except for December 15 to January 5, when I know the Forum will not meet. While it may be cold, there is frequently plenty of sunshine. If you're inside a building, it might as well be Hawaii outside. I plan to never attend a meeting in Atlanta because my past experiences with Delta and/or that airport have all been terrible. Jeff On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres(a)cisco.com> wrote: > On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Torsten Hoefler wrote: > >> > At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more people >> > speak up. >> I think it is unreasonable to expect that a majority of the Forum will >> speak up via email (or even read this thread :-). It would be reasonable >> to do statistical sampling. I heard 4 people against Atlanta and 0 in >> favor so far. Speak up! > > I prefer California and Chicago to Atlanta. ï¿½Atlanta is certainly not a deal-breaker for me, but I do prefer the other two. > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > -- Jeff Hammond Argonne Leadership Computing Facility jhammond(a)mcs.anl.gov / (630) 252-5381 http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffhammond

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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by Barrett, Brian W 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Torsten Hoefler wrote: >> If people are really against Atlanta - and I have only heard a small >> number of people that are against it and know that there are several >> in favor of it - we will just have Jan meeting in CA. Last year most >> people preferred Atlanta to going to CA 3 times in a row. > I disagree to this. It's just a financial and balance question. It is a > stretch to go to CA for some of us who need to stay in tight budgets. > We should also take into account that the NSF funding will probably run > out this year. > >> At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more people >> speak up. > I think it is unreasonable to expect that a majority of the Forum will > speak up via email (or even read this thread :-). It would be reasonable > to do statistical sampling. I heard 4 people against Atlanta and 0 in > favor so far. Speak up! Atlanta's expensive for us, and I can't say that I loved the facility. I'd have a preference for not doing ATL again unless we could arrange good facilities. California and Chicago seem to have worked for us pretty well. Brian -- Brian W. Barrett Dept. 1423: Scalable System Software Sandia National Laboratories

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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by Jeff Squyres 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Torsten Hoefler wrote: > > At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more people > > speak up. > I think it is unreasonable to expect that a majority of the Forum will > speak up via email (or even read this thread :-). It would be reasonable > to do statistical sampling. I heard 4 people against Atlanta and 0 in > favor so far. Speak up! I prefer California and Chicago to Atlanta. Atlanta is certainly not a deal-breaker for me, but I do prefer the other two. -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by William Gropp 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

I'm in favor of fewer locations and in this case, Chicago is far more convenient for me. Bill On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Graham, Richard L. wrote: > We went to Atlanta in the winter to avoid Chicago that time of > year. If people are really against Atlanta - and I have only heard > a small number of people that are against it and know that there are > several in favor of it - we will just have Jan meeting in CA. Last > year most people preferred Atlanta to going to CA 3 times in a row. > At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more > people speak up. > > Rich William Gropp Deputy Director for Research Institute for Advanced Computing Applications and Technologies Paul and Cynthia Saylor Professor of Computer Science University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign

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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by Bronis R. de Supinski 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

I am happy to go to Atlanta for personal reasons. However, I also like Chicago and have no issues with visiting it in the winter. And, I live in CA... On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Torsten Hoefler wrote: > On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:37:05AM -0400, Rich L. Graham wrote: >> We went to Atlanta in the winter to avoid Chicago that time of year. > I never really understood this argument. We're not going on vacation and > Microsoft has heating in their facility afaik. > >> If people are really against Atlanta - and I have only heard a small >> number of people that are against it and know that there are several >> in favor of it - we will just have Jan meeting in CA. Last year most >> people preferred Atlanta to going to CA 3 times in a row. > I disagree to this. It's just a financial and balance question. It is a > stretch to go to CA for some of us who need to stay in tight budgets. > We should also take into account that the NSF funding will probably run > out this year. > >> At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more people >> speak up. > I think it is unreasonable to expect that a majority of the Forum will > speak up via email (or even read this thread :-). It would be reasonable > to do statistical sampling. I heard 4 people against Atlanta and 0 in > favor so far. Speak up! > > All the Best, > Torsten > > -- > bash$ :(){ :|:&};: --------------------- http://*www.*unixer.de/ ----- > In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in > practice, there is. -- a computer scientist > _______________________________________________ > mpi-forum mailing list > mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://*lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi-forum > >

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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by Torsten Hoefler 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:37:05AM -0400, Rich L. Graham wrote: > We went to Atlanta in the winter to avoid Chicago that time of year. I never really understood this argument. We're not going on vacation and Microsoft has heating in their facility afaik. > If people are really against Atlanta - and I have only heard a small > number of people that are against it and know that there are several > in favor of it - we will just have Jan meeting in CA. Last year most > people preferred Atlanta to going to CA 3 times in a row. I disagree to this. It's just a financial and balance question. It is a stretch to go to CA for some of us who need to stay in tight budgets. We should also take into account that the NSF funding will probably run out this year. > At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more people > speak up. I think it is unreasonable to expect that a majority of the Forum will speak up via email (or even read this thread :-). It would be reasonable to do statistical sampling. I heard 4 people against Atlanta and 0 in favor so far. Speak up! All the Best, Torsten -- bash$ :(){ :|:&};: --------------------- http://www.unixer.de/ ----- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. -- a computer scientist

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Re: [Mpi-forum] 2011 meetings
by Graham, Richard L. 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

We went to Atlanta in the winter to avoid Chicago that time of year. If people are really against Atlanta - and I have only heard a small number of people that are against it and know that there are several in favor of it - we will just have Jan meeting in CA. Last year most people preferred Atlanta to going to CA 3 times in a row. At this stage I will keep that meeting in Atlanta, unless more people speak up. Rich On 7/8/10 6:31 AM, "Terry Dontje" <terry.dontje(a)oracle.com> wrote: Martin Schulz wrote: On Jul 7, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Torsten Hoefler wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:45:12AM -0400, Rich L. Graham wrote: Just doing this based on the calendar, here is how the schedule would look: Jan 31 - Feb 2 - Atlanta Why again did we want to meet in Atlanta? Most people didn't like the location and we don't have a sponsor for meeting rooms there. It would be good to move this meeting in Chicago (if the Microsoft facility is available). I agree with Torsten - Atlanta is much more inconvenient than Chicago, even from the Westcoast. Based on my experience last time, it is more expensive to fly there and red eye/evening combinations (which work nicely between SFO and ORD) are much harder to accomplish (in particular when one tries to stay under $750 NSF funding). I agree even though I wasn't at the last Atlanta meeting it is inconvenient for me to fly there. March 28 - 30 - CA May 23 - 25 - Chicago July 18 - 20 - CA Sept - In conjunction with Euro MPI Nov 9 - 11 - In conjunction with SC (may want to move this to late Oct) I would propose more meetings in Chicago because it seems that more folks are closer to Chicago (Argonne, IU, UIUC) than CA (Microsoft?, Cisco?). You can add us to this list for west coast as well :) West Coast trips are useful for us too. Plus who really likes being in Chicago from November-March? --td I would propose to go back to the original scheme of alternating between Chicago and CA. This seemed to have worked well in the past. Martin Thanks & Best, Torsten

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