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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Schulz, Martin 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: What about MPI_T_PVAR_HANDLE_FREE? That takes a (session, handle) tuple, but doesn't have the text about MPI_T_ERR_INVALID_HANDLE. I will add this to the handle_free text. Alternatively, I could put this text right after the handle_alloc text: For any routine that takes both handle and session arguments, if the handle argument passed in is not associated with the session argument, MPI_T_ERR_INVALID_HANDLE is returned. Actually, I don't think that is specific enough. How about: For all routines in the rest of this section that take both handle and session arguments, if the handle argument passed in is not associated with the session argument, MPI_T_ERR_INVALID_HANDLE is returned. Not to be nit-picky, but the alloc routines also has a handle and a session argument and doesn't apply there. I think we have to say "take both handle and session arguments as IN arguments". Martin Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA _______________________________________________ mpiwg-tools mailing list mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Kathryn Mohror 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

>> >> What about MPI_T_PVAR_HANDLE_FREE? That takes a (session, handle) tuple, but doesn't have the text about MPI_T_ERR_INVALID_HANDLE. > > I will add this to the handle_free text. Alternatively, I could put this text right after the handle_alloc text: > > For any routine that takes both handle and session arguments, if the handle argument passed in is not associated with the session argument, MPI_T_ERR_INVALID_HANDLE is returned. Actually, I don't think that is specific enough. How about: For all routines in the rest of this section that take both handle and session arguments, if the handle argument passed in is not associated with the session argument, MPI_T_ERR_INVALID_HANDLE is returned. Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Schulz, Martin 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

> >> >> Also for PVAR start, what if there are no handles associated with a session and MPI_T_PVAR_ALL_HANDLES is used? Do we return SUCCESS or ERR_PVAR_NO_STARTSTOP? > > Hm. I think this is a separate ticket, yes? And I would think returning the error code would be more helpful than success. However, I can see the other side too, that success makes sense, since nothing erroneous actually happened. Here is what the text says: If the constant MPI_T_PVAR_ALL_HANDLES is passed in handle, the MPI implementation attempts to start all variables within the session identified by the parameter session for which handles have been allocated. For me this reads as returning SUCCESS since all variables, which had handles allocated, have been reset. Granted, we could be more explicit. (the same applies to stop and reset as well) Martin > >> >>> and 387 >> >> Looks good. :-) >> >>> due to lack of time (I blame Fortran!) >> >> Long live Fortran 2028! > > :-) > > Kathryn > >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> jsquyres(a)cisco.com >> For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-tools mailing list >> mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-tools mailing list > mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Kathryn Mohror 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

>> Hello everybody and Happy Monday! >> >> Please take a look at these tickets because we need to publish the final drafts *tomorrow* if they will be read in Madrid. >> >> I updated 377 and 378 based on our conversations in the last call, so make sure that you like them and speak up if you don't. > > Oy, you're going to kill me, I take back the Happy Monday :-) > but for 377: > > "...because the tool won’t have to iterate..." > > Do we use contractions in the standard? If not, you should probably change "won't" to "will not". Okay, I will fix this. > For 378: > > "If any OUT parameter to MPI_T_CVAR_GET_INFO" > > OUT is in the wrong font. Same for PVAR and CATEGORY. Do you know what the proper markup for OUT is? I looked around but didn't find an example yet. Putting in \OUT doesn't seem to do the right thing. > >> We didn't go over 385, > > Rather than replace the whole paragraph, is it possible to just edit the specific words that are changing? It's somewhat difficult to read the two paragraphs and see exactly what changed... > > (I know this is nit picky, but I'm going to be the one presenting this, and I'm sure someone is going to ask exactly what the difference is between the two :-) ) I will give this a try. > >> 386, > > What about MPI_T_PVAR_HANDLE_FREE? That takes a (session, handle) tuple, but doesn't have the text about MPI_T_ERR_INVALID_HANDLE. I will add this to the handle_free text. Alternatively, I could put this text right after the handle_alloc text: For any routine that takes both handle and session arguments, if the handle argument passed in is not associated with the session argument, MPI_T_ERR_INVALID_HANDLE is returned. Does that work for you? > > Also for PVAR start, what if there are no handles associated with a session and MPI_T_PVAR_ALL_HANDLES is used? Do we return SUCCESS or ERR_PVAR_NO_STARTSTOP? Hm. I think this is a separate ticket, yes? And I would think returning the error code would be more helpful than success. However, I can see the other side too, that success makes sense, since nothing erroneous actually happened. > >> and 387 > > Looks good. :-) > >> due to lack of time (I blame Fortran!) > > Long live Fortran 2028! :-) Kathryn > > -- > Jeff Squyres > jsquyres(a)cisco.com > For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/ > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-tools mailing list > mpiwg-tools(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-tools ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

On Aug 26, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hello everybody and Happy Monday! > > Please take a look at these tickets because we need to publish the final drafts *tomorrow* if they will be read in Madrid. > > I updated 377 and 378 based on our conversations in the last call, so make sure that you like them and speak up if you don't. Oy, you're going to kill me, but for 377: "...because the tool won’t have to iterate..." Do we use contractions in the standard? If not, you should probably change "won't" to "will not". For 378: "If any OUT parameter to MPI_T_CVAR_GET_INFO" OUT is in the wrong font. Same for PVAR and CATEGORY. > We didn't go over 385, Rather than replace the whole paragraph, is it possible to just edit the specific words that are changing? It's somewhat difficult to read the two paragraphs and see exactly what changed... (I know this is nit picky, but I'm going to be the one presenting this, and I'm sure someone is going to ask exactly what the difference is between the two :-) ) > 386, What about MPI_T_PVAR_HANDLE_FREE? That takes a (session, handle) tuple, but doesn't have the text about MPI_T_ERR_INVALID_HANDLE. Also for PVAR start, what if there are no handles associated with a session and MPI_T_PVAR_ALL_HANDLES is used? Do we return SUCCESS or ERR_PVAR_NO_STARTSTOP? > and 387 Looks good. :-) > due to lack of time (I blame Fortran!) Long live Fortran 2028! -- Jeff Squyres jsquyres(a)cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Kathryn Mohror 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

Hello everybody and Happy Monday! Please take a look at these tickets because we need to publish the final drafts *tomorrow* if they will be read in Madrid. I updated 377 and 378 based on our conversations in the last call, so make sure that you like them and speak up if you don't. We didn't go over 385, 386, and 387 due to lack of time (I blame Fortran!) so please look at them to make sure I haven't goofed. Thanks, Kathryn On Aug 22, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi all, > > We didn't get through all the tickets on the call. I've updated the tickets to include a copy of the tools chapter with the changes for each ticket. I also attached the chapter to this email. > > Below is a summary of the tickets we have open and our plans for them. We need to send out the final draft for each ticket to be voted on/read by Tuesday evening, so please look at these soon! > > > - 377, "3.1" change, in doc, read in Madrid > - 378, "3.1" change, in doc, read in Madrid > - 383, still needs to be written, not in doc > - 384, still needs to be written, not in doc > - 385, errata item, in doc, read in Madrid, vote in Madrid > - 386, errata item, in doc, read in Madrid, vote in Madrid > - 387, errata item, in doc, read in Madrid, vote in Madrid > > I took into account the comments from the call this morning for 377 and 378, so please comment on them if you want more changes. > > Kathryn > > On Aug 22, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Here's another document we will go over during the call, attached. >> >> Kathryn >> >> On Aug 21, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> We have our regularly scheduled tools working group meeting tomorrow August 22 at 11:00 EDT. As always, the link to the webex is on our wiki page near the top: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools >>> >>> We have a rather full agenda to get us prepared for the forum meeting in three weeks. We'll discuss the MQD document that Anh sent out, tickets up for readings/votes, and other topics that might come up. >>> >>> I'm attaching a PDF of the tools chapter with changes for the tickets we will discuss tomorrow. >>> >>> Kathryn >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >>> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <tools-3.pdf> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >> >> >> >> >> <errata-30-ticket388-2013-08-22.pdf> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > <tools-3.pdf> ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Kathryn Mohror 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

I updated the wiki with notes on the meeting: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools/notes-2013-08-22 Kathryn On Aug 22, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi all, > > We didn't get through all the tickets on the call. I've updated the tickets to include a copy of the tools chapter with the changes for each ticket. I also attached the chapter to this email. > > Below is a summary of the tickets we have open and our plans for them. We need to send out the final draft for each ticket to be voted on/read by Tuesday evening, so please look at these soon! > > > - 377, "3.1" change, in doc, read in Madrid > - 378, "3.1" change, in doc, read in Madrid > - 383, still needs to be written, not in doc > - 384, still needs to be written, not in doc > - 385, errata item, in doc, read in Madrid, vote in Madrid > - 386, errata item, in doc, read in Madrid, vote in Madrid > - 387, errata item, in doc, read in Madrid, vote in Madrid > > I took into account the comments from the call this morning for 377 and 378, so please comment on them if you want more changes. > > Kathryn > > On Aug 22, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Here's another document we will go over during the call, attached. >> >> Kathryn >> >> On Aug 21, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> We have our regularly scheduled tools working group meeting tomorrow August 22 at 11:00 EDT. As always, the link to the webex is on our wiki page near the top: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools >>> >>> We have a rather full agenda to get us prepared for the forum meeting in three weeks. We'll discuss the MQD document that Anh sent out, tickets up for readings/votes, and other topics that might come up. >>> >>> I'm attaching a PDF of the tools chapter with changes for the tickets we will discuss tomorrow. >>> >>> Kathryn >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >>> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <tools-3.pdf> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >> >> >> >> >> <errata-30-ticket388-2013-08-22.pdf> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > <tools-3.pdf> ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Kathryn Mohror 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

Hi all, We didn't get through all the tickets on the call. I've updated the tickets to include a copy of the tools chapter with the changes for each ticket. I also attached the chapter to this email. Below is a summary of the tickets we have open and our plans for them. We need to send out the final draft for each ticket to be voted on/read by Tuesday evening, so please look at these soon! - 377, "3.1" change, in doc, read in Madrid - 378, "3.1" change, in doc, read in Madrid - 383, still needs to be written, not in doc - 384, still needs to be written, not in doc - 385, errata item, in doc, read in Madrid, vote in Madrid - 386, errata item, in doc, read in Madrid, vote in Madrid - 387, errata item, in doc, read in Madrid, vote in Madrid I took into account the comments from the call this morning for 377 and 378, so please comment on them if you want more changes. Kathryn On Aug 22, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi all, > > Here's another document we will go over during the call, attached. > > Kathryn > > On Aug 21, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> We have our regularly scheduled tools working group meeting tomorrow August 22 at 11:00 EDT. As always, the link to the webex is on our wiki page near the top: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools >> >> We have a rather full agenda to get us prepared for the forum meeting in three weeks. We'll discuss the MQD document that Anh sent out, tickets up for readings/votes, and other topics that might come up. >> >> I'm attaching a PDF of the tools chapter with changes for the tickets we will discuss tomorrow. >> >> Kathryn >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 >> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA >> >> >> >> >> <tools-3.pdf> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > <errata-30-ticket388-2013-08-22.pdf> ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Re: [mpiwg-tools] Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Kathryn Mohror 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

Hi all, Here's another document we will go over during the call, attached. Kathryn On Aug 21, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > Hi all, > > We have our regularly scheduled tools working group meeting tomorrow August 22 at 11:00 EDT. As always, the link to the webex is on our wiki page near the top: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools > > We have a rather full agenda to get us prepared for the forum meeting in three weeks. We'll discuss the MQD document that Anh sent out, tickets up for readings/votes, and other topics that might come up. > > I'm attaching a PDF of the tools chapter with changes for the tickets we will discuss tomorrow. > > Kathryn > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA > > > > > <tools-3.pdf> ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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Tools WG webex tomorrow!
by Kathryn Mohror 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

Hi all, We have our regularly scheduled tools working group meeting tomorrow August 22 at 11:00 EDT. As always, the link to the webex is on our wiki page near the top: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools We have a rather full agenda to get us prepared for the forum meeting in three weeks. We'll discuss the MQD document that Anh sent out, tickets up for readings/votes, and other topics that might come up. I'm attaching a PDF of the tools chapter with changes for the tickets we will discuss tomorrow. Kathryn ______________________________________________________________ Kathryn Mohror, kathryn(a)llnl.gov, http://people.llnl.gov/mohror1 CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, USA

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