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Re: AG Installation
by Jennifer Teig von Hoffman 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Hi Lee, Hmm, that's weird about rat. Lack of multicast wouldn't do that (it would only mean that you wouldn't see any streams in rat). I'm cc-ing ag-tech again, anybody got clues? - Jennifer Lee Derks wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > > I actually received the certificate within a few minutes of requesting, > amazing! I am able to connect to the AG venues but RAT does not launch. I > get a black command window that says "RAT kill." As far as I know, multicast > is still not enabled, would this have anything to do with the RAT? > > Thank you, > Lee Derks > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Teig von Hoffman" <jtvh(a)bu.edu> > To: "Lee Derks" <derksl(a)unm.edu> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: AG Installation > > > >>Cool, glad to hear it! >> >>FYI, generally globus certificates are expected within 2 business days, >>but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a little extra delay this week >>due to the post-SC03 slump and the upcoming long weekend. >> >>- Jennifer >> >>Lee Derks wrote: >> >> >>>Hello, >>> >>> For some reason, the Access Grid Toolkit software liked my computer > > this > >>>morning. I uninstalled the software like I did on numerous occasions. > > This > >>>time, after the uninstall applications completed, I went into the > > registry > >>>editor and deleted all traces of Python & AGTK. I reinstalled the > > software > >>>and it seems to work. I just need my Globus certificate. >>> >>>Lee Derks >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Jennifer Teig von Hoffman" <jtvh(a)bu.edu> >>>To: "Lee Derks" <derksl(a)unm.edu> >>>Cc: <ag-tech(a)mcs.anl.gov> >>>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 7:30 AM >>>Subject: Re: AG Installation >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi Lee, >>>> >>>>Hmm, that's strange behavior; I don't believe the lack of multicast >>>>would have any effect on the "request certificate" function. Does it >>>>just not respond at all, or does it give you any kind of error message? >>>>I'm also not sure why you'd need to run the Node Setup wizard on a >>>>personal node, but perhaps I'm just missing something here. >>>> >>>>I'm cc-ing ag-tech, since I haven't seen anything like this before but >>>>perhaps somebody else has. >>>> >>>>Cheers, >>>>Jennifer >>>> >>>> >>>>Lee Derks wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Jennifer, >>>>> >>>>> I'm sorry to bother you with AG software installation questions, > > but > >>>we >>> >>> >>>>>are trying to set up an AG PIG at the TVN main office. As of today, >>>>>multicast is not enabled on our router but it will be by Monday. I went >>> >>>to >>> >>> >>>>>the Access Grid software page and downloaded Python 2.2, wxPython 2.4, >>> >>>and >>> >>> >>>>>the AG Toolkit 2.1.2. I also installed the software in that order. I do >>> >>>not >>> >>> >>>>>have a Globus security certificate. When I try requesting a certificate >>>>>through the program "Request Certificate," the application does not do >>>>>anything. Do I need to launch other applications before I can request a >>>>>certificate? Or, is it because Multicast is not enabled? I also tried >>>>>launching the program "Node Setup Wizard" and that did not work either. >>>>> >>>>>Thank you for your help >>>>>Lee Derks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>

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Re: [AG-TECH] Re: AG Installation
by Robert Olson 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

>>1. Get the windows box client to recognise the Linux machine's Simple >>CA for getting the certificates ? >> ( will I have to hack thru the python scripts ? or some option is >>available ) I'm not sure what you mean by recognizing the simple ca for certs. If you're issuing your own certs with a globus simple ca, you're going to have to import the CA certificate into any machines that you're going to use with those certs, as well as importing the users' identity certs. >>2. Get the WIndows machine to be multicast enabled : Do you know of some >>reliable softwatre , or are there any settings that you know of ? Like Jennifer said, this is a network issue; you shouldn't have to do anything on the win box to make it understand multicast (well, usually - if you have multiple network interfaces, or are using something like VMware that installs additional interfaces, there is some tweaking that you may have to do). >>3. Initaially , I had setup the gpt3.0 on both the machines and had >>planend to get the grid up and running and then put up the AG on top of >>it. But when i have proceeded to the AG installation , the package has >>GPT1.0 ( with linux AG distribution ) and GPT2.0 ( with win2k AG dist.) . >>Will the "downgrading" of gpt have any problems ? I'm not sure what you're referring to with respect to GPT2.0 on the win2k distribution; we aren't using GPT there (GPT being the Globus Packing Technology stuff). On the linux side, I'm not sure if the later GPT versions are backward compatible with the older Globus we require. --bob

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Re: AG Installation
by Lee Derks 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Hello, For some reason, the Access Grid Toolkit software liked my computer this morning. I uninstalled the software like I did on numerous occasions. This time, after the uninstall applications completed, I went into the registry editor and deleted all traces of Python & AGTK. I reinstalled the software and it seems to work. I just need my Globus certificate. Lee Derks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Teig von Hoffman" <jtvh(a)bu.edu> To: "Lee Derks" <derksl(a)unm.edu> Cc: <ag-tech(a)mcs.anl.gov> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 7:30 AM Subject: Re: AG Installation > Hi Lee, > > Hmm, that's strange behavior; I don't believe the lack of multicast > would have any effect on the "request certificate" function. Does it > just not respond at all, or does it give you any kind of error message? > I'm also not sure why you'd need to run the Node Setup wizard on a > personal node, but perhaps I'm just missing something here. > > I'm cc-ing ag-tech, since I haven't seen anything like this before but > perhaps somebody else has. > > Cheers, > Jennifer > > > Lee Derks wrote: > > > Hi Jennifer, > > > > I'm sorry to bother you with AG software installation questions, but we > > are trying to set up an AG PIG at the TVN main office. As of today, > > multicast is not enabled on our router but it will be by Monday. I went to > > the Access Grid software page and downloaded Python 2.2, wxPython 2.4, and > > the AG Toolkit 2.1.2. I also installed the software in that order. I do not > > have a Globus security certificate. When I try requesting a certificate > > through the program "Request Certificate," the application does not do > > anything. Do I need to launch other applications before I can request a > > certificate? Or, is it because Multicast is not enabled? I also tried > > launching the program "Node Setup Wizard" and that did not work either. > > > > Thank you for your help > > Lee Derks > > > > > > >

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Re: AG Installation
by Lee Derks 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Hi Jennifer, The "request certificate" function does not respond at all and does not give any error message. I wasn't really sure if I needed to run Node Setup but I was just testing the application to see if it would respond. We are supposed to get Multicast enabled this afternoon and will try again tomorrow. Thanks! Lee > Hmm, that's strange behavior; I don't believe the lack of multicast > would have any effect on the "request certificate" function. Does it > just not respond at all, or does it give you any kind of error message? > I'm also not sure why you'd need to run the Node Setup wizard on a > personal node, but perhaps I'm just missing something here. > > I'm cc-ing ag-tech, since I haven't seen anything like this before but > perhaps somebody else has. > > Cheers, > Jennifer > > > Lee Derks wrote: > > > Hi Jennifer, > > > > I'm sorry to bother you with AG software installation questions, but we > > are trying to set up an AG PIG at the TVN main office. As of today, > > multicast is not enabled on our router but it will be by Monday. I went to > > the Access Grid software page and downloaded Python 2.2, wxPython 2.4, and > > the AG Toolkit 2.1.2. I also installed the software in that order. I do not > > have a Globus security certificate. When I try requesting a certificate > > through the program "Request Certificate," the application does not do > > anything. Do I need to launch other applications before I can request a > > certificate? Or, is it because Multicast is not enabled? I also tried > > launching the program "Node Setup Wizard" and that did not work either. > > > > Thank you for your help > > Lee Derks > > > > > > > > -------------- Lee Derks UNM Undergrad BBA/MIS derksL(a)unm.edu

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Re: [AG-TECH] Re: AG Installation
by Jennifer Teig von Hoffman 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Himani, Thanks for your mail. I'm not sure what to advise, so I'm cc-ing ag-tech on my reply in the hopes that somebody else on the list can be of more help. One thing I can say is that there is nothing you need to do on your Windows machine to enable multicast; this is something which must be done by your local (and also most likely wide-area) network engineers. Cheers, Jennifer Himani Gandhi wrote: > Hi Jeniffer , > > I am Himani Gandhi , a student at IIT delhi. Here i am also working on the > installation of an internal AG. (Internal as in we donot plan to initially > connect to the Global Virtual Venues but later we would setup a complete > node. > > The purpose of my mail is to ask for some doubts , which were unanswered > about my AG installation . Please see if you can cater to any of them , it > would be of great help to me . and also kindly excuse me if any of the > doubts are too trivial . I have recently started working on AG . > > Since my doubts were of initial installation , they were not catered to in > the AG-TECH list . So I am posing them to you: > > I am setting up a AG between a Linux RH8.0 and a windows 2000 machine, > with the Linux Machine as the server . > > As Lee said , I also downlaoded the three packages , and insatlled them on > the windows . Now how do I : > > 1. Get the windows box client to recognise the Linux machine's Simple > CA for getting the certificates ? > ( will I have to hack thru the python scripts ? or some option is > available ) > > 2. Get the WIndows machine to be multicast enabled : Do you know of some > reliable softwatre , or are there any settings that you know of ? > > 3. Initaially , I had setup the gpt3.0 on both the machines and had > planend to get the grid up and running and then put up the AG on top of > it. But when i have proceeded to the AG installation , the package has > GPT1.0 ( with linux AG distribution ) and GPT2.0 ( with win2k AG dist.) . > Will the "downgrading" of gpt have any problems ? > > Kindly guide me on any of the issues . Waiting in anticipation... > Thanks > > Regards > Himani Gandhi > > > > On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Jennifer Teig von Hoffman wrote: > > >>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:30:31 -0500 >>From: Jennifer Teig von Hoffman <jtvh(a)bu.edu> >>To: Lee Derks <derksl(a)unm.edu> >>Cc: "'ag-tech(a)mcs.anl.gov'" <ag-tech(a)mcs.anl.gov> >>Subject: [AG-TECH] Re: AG Installation >> >>Hi Lee, >> >>Hmm, that's strange behavior; I don't believe the lack of multicast >>would have any effect on the "request certificate" function. Does it >>just not respond at all, or does it give you any kind of error message? >>I'm also not sure why you'd need to run the Node Setup wizard on a >>personal node, but perhaps I'm just missing something here. >> >>I'm cc-ing ag-tech, since I haven't seen anything like this before but >>perhaps somebody else has. >> >>Cheers, >>Jennifer >> >> >>Lee Derks wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Jennifer, >>> >>> I'm sorry to bother you with AG software installation questions, but we >>>are trying to set up an AG PIG at the TVN main office. As of today, >>>multicast is not enabled on our router but it will be by Monday. I went to >>>the Access Grid software page and downloaded Python 2.2, wxPython 2.4, and >>>the AG Toolkit 2.1.2. I also installed the software in that order. I do not >>>have a Globus security certificate. When I try requesting a certificate >>>through the program "Request Certificate," the application does not do >>>anything. Do I need to launch other applications before I can request a >>>certificate? Or, is it because Multicast is not enabled? I also tried >>>launching the program "Node Setup Wizard" and that did not work either. >>> >>>Thank you for your help >>>Lee Derks >>> >>> >> >> >> >

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Re: AG Installation
by Jennifer Teig von Hoffman 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Hi Lee, Hmm, that's strange behavior; I don't believe the lack of multicast would have any effect on the "request certificate" function. Does it just not respond at all, or does it give you any kind of error message? I'm also not sure why you'd need to run the Node Setup wizard on a personal node, but perhaps I'm just missing something here. I'm cc-ing ag-tech, since I haven't seen anything like this before but perhaps somebody else has. Cheers, Jennifer Lee Derks wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > > I'm sorry to bother you with AG software installation questions, but we > are trying to set up an AG PIG at the TVN main office. As of today, > multicast is not enabled on our router but it will be by Monday. I went to > the Access Grid software page and downloaded Python 2.2, wxPython 2.4, and > the AG Toolkit 2.1.2. I also installed the software in that order. I do not > have a Globus security certificate. When I try requesting a certificate > through the program "Request Certificate," the application does not do > anything. Do I need to launch other applications before I can request a > certificate? Or, is it because Multicast is not enabled? I also tried > launching the program "Node Setup Wizard" and that did not work either. > > Thank you for your help > Lee Derks > >

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wrong mixer channel in Linux Rat - solved
by Andrew Daviel 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

..not by me, though I bought a "soundblaster 128" card as recommended by AG docs. Nowadays that's a "Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI", according to lspci. The transmit level slider in Rat for "line in" was changing the amount of feedback of microphones into the sound system, not the level of microphone (via EC and line-in) onto the network, which was controlled by Igain in the mixer - a bit confusing for users. I thought I'd go hack it, and found it already fixed by Stuart Levy in auddev_oss.c in the AG RAT v4.2.23. Our card wasn't detected as AC97 compliant but I see I can set the environment variable OSS_IS_AC97 So I placed "export OSS_IS_AC97=1" in /etc/profile which should set it for everyone (similar setenv in /etc/csh.cshrc for C-shell users) (OSS_IS_AC97 had only 2 hits on Google, so I thought I'd post this...) -- Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376 security(a)triumf.ca

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AGTK-2.1.1 Windows XP Installation
by Lee Derks 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

Hello, I am trying to establish an AG PIG in Windows XP Professional. I downloaded AGTK-2.1.1b, Python-2.2.3, and wxPythonWIN32-2.4.0.2. I installed the software in the following order: Python, wxPython, and AGTK. After the files from the AGTK are installed, the Globus runtime environment setup application never starts (the check mark was checked next to Globus runtime environment setup). When I try clicking on the other AG applications, they do not launch either. Is this because Multicast is not yet enabled? It will be enabled on Monday. Thank you, Lee Derks -------------- Lee Derks UNM Undergrad BBA/MIS derksL(a)unm.edu

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AW: AW: [AG-TECH] video card question
by Brunner, Armin 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

It's easy ;-) The Winnov support crew helped a lot. You have to fiddle in the registry :-( citation: Go to HKLM\system\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winnov32\Vidsrc\SAA7114\Board0\Source Try change the value to 1. reboot the machine once. If you want to use the 2nd, 3rd and 4th device, do the same for board1, board2 and board3. citation end. After this change (it works really) I was facing the next problem. All the videos were upside down but there was a solution for this also. citation: HKEY_ CURRENT_USER\Software\Winnov\Videum\vic.exe0 Add a Dword called Vflip and set its value to 1. do the same for all copies of vic.exe you find under HKLM or HKCU and under other users. citation end. Our video computer: Dual Xeon, WinXP (with all patches and SPs), Winnov Videum 4400AV, Driver 2.13 Armin ======================================================= Armin Brunner e-mail: armin.brunner(a)id.ethz.ch Leiter Kommunikation Tel: +41-1-632'3538 RZ, ETH-Zentrum Fax: +41-1-632'1225 CH-8092 Zurich Switzerland .... Und aus dem Chaos sprach eine Stimme zu mir: "Laechle und sei froh, denn es koennte schlimmer kommen!" .... Ich laechelte und war froh - und es kam schlimmer. >-----Ursprï¿½ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: owner-ag-tech(a)mcs.anl.gov >[mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Cindy Sievers >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. November 2003 20:23 >An: Jimmy Miklavcic; Access Grid >Betreff: Re: AW: [AG-TECH] video card question > > >What exactly did Armin Brunner do to make the Winnov Videum >quad card work >with vic? I think that there are lots of us who would like to >know....:) > >At 08:21 AM 11/19/2003, Jimmy Miklavcic wrote: >>In one system I have 2 Osprey 220 cards and 2 Osprey 230 cards in a >>single >>Windows XP Dual 3.0 GHz box. Works like a charm. >> >>In another system I have two video capture machines with 4 in >one and 3 >>in >>another (total 7). An they all work fine, although these are >linux boxes. >> >>Jimmy >> >>Brunner, Armin wrote: >> >>>I can confirm this. With WinXP only ONE Haupauge WinTV card is >>>supported. >>>Workaround: several computers with one haupauge card each >>>or other video capturing card. I'm using a Winnov Videum 4400 4 port >>>card (it's possible to bring this card to work with vic). Regards >>>Armin >>> >>> >> >>-- >>Jimmy Miklavcic >>Multimedia Specialist >>jhm(a)chpc.utah.edu >> >>UNIVERSITY OF UTAH >>CTR FOR HIGH PERFORM COMPUTING >>155 SOUTH 1452 EAST RM 405 >>SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84112-0190 >> >>Office: 801.585.9335 >> Fax: 801.585.5366 >> >>http://www.chpc.utah.edu/~jhm >>http://www.anotherlanguage.org >> >> >> > > >============================================ >Cindy Sievers Los Alamos National Laboratory >sievers(a)lanl.gov Group CCS-1 MS B287 >tel:505.665.6602 Advanced Computing >fax:505.665.4939 Los Alamos, NM 87544 >============================================ > >

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Re: [AG-TECH] H.350
by Markus Buchhorn 20 Nov '03

20 Nov '03

Hi Gavin (Max?) At 12:07 20/11/2003 -0500, Gavin W. Burris aka 86 wrote: >I recently became aware of the Internet2 VidMid push to the H.320 >standard of video conferencing. > >H.350 includes H.323 hardware codecs, which are compatible through >bridging with VRVS. H.350 isn't a new codec or signalling protocol as such. It's basically a metadata schema to describe identities of people and terminals, to allow for e.g. directory lookups, AAA, etc. for H.323 (and SIP, and potentially others) terminals. That way I can make a H.323 call to "Gavin W. Burris(a)PSU.edu", and have a known path through various directories to identify you and your location, and perhaps your capabilities (you're on the road->ring the cell phone; you're in the office->ring the PC; you're in a meeting marked not-to-be-disturbed-unless-urgent and it's urgent->ring the meeting-room-phone). And so on. The schema will probably be relevant in the AG in due course, but for the moment we only have venues :-) Cheers, Markus Markus Buchhorn, ANU Internet Futures Project, | Ph: +61 2 61258810 Markus.Buchhorn(a)anu.edu.au, mail: Bldg #108 - CS&IT |Fax: +61 2 61259805 Australian National University, Canberra 0200, Aust.|Mob: 0417 281429

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