January 2000 - Ag-tech - mailman3.cels.anl.gov

Re: KY schedule
by Satish Kumar 28 Jan '00

28 Jan '00

hi the schedule can be found at: http://www.ccs.uky.edu/ccs/profiles/Spring2000/wed/wed.html Satish Vanimisetti CCS - UKy On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Tom Coffin wrote: > > hi > > Is there a listing of the Wednesday seminars and their content. > There may be some interested parties in this area which would > like to attend. > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tom Coffin .......................... tcoffin(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu >

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KY schedule
by Tom Coffin 28 Jan '00

28 Jan '00

hi Is there a listing of the Wednesday seminars and their content. There may be some interested parties in this area which would like to attend. ___________________________________________________________ Tom Coffin .......................... tcoffin(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu

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Re: PROPOSAL: turning off Argonne bridges
by Barbara A. Kucera 28 Jan '00

28 Jan '00

Thanks, Bob. Barbara ------------ At 11:11 AM 01/28/2000 -0600, Robert Olson wrote: > > At 11:05 AM 1/28/00 -0600, Barbara A. Kucera wrote: >> >> Nice job, Bill. I especially liked the Website explanation, with pictures >> yet! >> >> My one questions is does this actually raise the cost of equipment to set >> up an AG node by $4000, or is other equipment no longer necessary if you >> use the new Cisco router? > > > > This equipment is a per-site cost if the current networking infrastructure at > the site cannot support multicast. It doesn't replace any of the other > equipment. > > With an agreeable network staff who already has the appropriate flavor of > Cisco router, such a tunnel could likely be set up to existing equipment. > However, with such a staff and equipment I suspect that proper multicast > might be doable anyway. > > --bob Barbara A. Kucera Alliance/EPSCoR Liaison National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (217) 244-0131 * Fax (217) 244-2909 "The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings can alter their lives by altering their attitudes of mind." - William James

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Re: PROPOSAL: turning off Argonne bridges
by Robert Olson 28 Jan '00

28 Jan '00

At 11:05 AM 1/28/00 -0600, Barbara A. Kucera wrote: >Nice job, Bill. I especially liked the Website explanation, with pictures >yet! > >My one questions is does this actually raise the cost of equipment to set >up an AG node by $4000, or is other equipment no longer necessary if you >use the new Cisco router? This equipment is a per-site cost if the current networking infrastructure at the site cannot support multicast. It doesn't replace any of the other equipment. With an agreeable network staff who already has the appropriate flavor of Cisco router, such a tunnel could likely be set up to existing equipment. However, with such a staff and equipment I suspect that proper multicast might be doable anyway. --bob

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Re: PROPOSAL: turning off Argonne bridges
by Barbara A. Kucera 28 Jan '00

28 Jan '00

Nice job, Bill. I especially liked the Website explanation, with pictures yet! My one questions is does this actually raise the cost of equipment to set up an AG node by $4000, or is other equipment no longer necessary if you use the new Cisco router? Thanks, Barbara ------------ At 03:52 PM 01/27/2000 -0600, Bill Nickless wrote: >I propose Argonne turn off the unicast/multicast bridges that have been >supporting the Access Grid effort, effective on Wednesday, 1 March 2000. > >Reasons for doing this include: > > - Moving forward on the Virtual Venue deployment. VV is incompatible > with the use of unicast/multicast bridges. > > - Generally encouraging the use of native IP multicast. > >In lieu of supporting the unicast/multicast bridges, I would be pleased to >help deploy native IP multicast at the various Access Grid sites. This can >be done through the "Roll Your Own" multicast method as has been done at >the University of New Mexico. Each Access Grid site would need to purchase >a Cisco 2621 router if the local site IP multicast is not working >well. The date of 1 March 2000 has been chosen to allow the Cisco 2621 >router to be ordered and delivered before the cutoff date. > >See http://www.mcs.anl.gov/home/nickless/RollOwnMulticast.ppt for more >information and background on this option. > >In parallel with a "Roll Your Own" IP multicast implementation, I would be >happy to work with your local networking people to deploy IP multicast >routing natively. Through the Access Grid and Chautauqua experience, the >network folks have learned a lot about native multicast deployment, and we >would be happy to share what we've learned with your people. > >Obviously comments are welcome and encouraged. >=== >Bill Nickless http://www.mcs.anl.gov/people/nickless +1 630 252 7390 >PGP:0E 0F 16 80 C5 B1 69 52 E1 44 1A A5 0E 1B 74 F7 nickless(a)mcs.anl.gov Barbara A. Kucera Alliance/EPSCoR Liaison National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (217) 244-0131 * Fax (217) 244-2909 "The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings can alter their lives by altering their attitudes of mind." - William James

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PROPOSAL: turning off Argonne bridges
by Bill Nickless 27 Jan '00

27 Jan '00

I propose Argonne turn off the unicast/multicast bridges that have been supporting the Access Grid effort, effective on Wednesday, 1 March 2000. Reasons for doing this include: - Moving forward on the Virtual Venue deployment. VV is incompatible with the use of unicast/multicast bridges. - Generally encouraging the use of native IP multicast. In lieu of supporting the unicast/multicast bridges, I would be pleased to help deploy native IP multicast at the various Access Grid sites. This can be done through the "Roll Your Own" multicast method as has been done at the University of New Mexico. Each Access Grid site would need to purchase a Cisco 2621 router if the local site IP multicast is not working well. The date of 1 March 2000 has been chosen to allow the Cisco 2621 router to be ordered and delivered before the cutoff date. See http://www.mcs.anl.gov/home/nickless/RollOwnMulticast.ppt for more information and background on this option. In parallel with a "Roll Your Own" IP multicast implementation, I would be happy to work with your local networking people to deploy IP multicast routing natively. Through the Access Grid and Chautauqua experience, the network folks have learned a lot about native multicast deployment, and we would be happy to share what we've learned with your people. Obviously comments are welcome and encouraged. === Bill Nickless http://www.mcs.anl.gov/people/nickless +1 630 252 7390 PGP:0E 0F 16 80 C5 B1 69 52 E1 44 1A A5 0E 1B 74 F7 nickless(a)mcs.anl.gov

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RE: Alliance Meeting Updates
by Lisa Childers 27 Jan '00

27 Jan '00

Folks The Virtual Venue software manages multiple simultaneous AG events. It was released before sc99. All AG nodes should be running the software at this time! Please refer to http://www-fp.mcs.anl.gov/fl/accessgrid/virtual-venue.htm for installation instructions. Lisa -----Original Message----- From: owner-ag-tech(a)mcs.anl.gov [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Tom Coffin Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 11:01 AM To: Margaret Lewis; gf-accounts; pacs; Chautauqua Team; Access Grid Cc: Candace Shirley; Cheryl Lawrence Subject: Re: Alliance Meeting Updates hi Multiple meetings can be on the grid simultaneously. Simply mute audio from participants not in your meeting, and display video from participants in your meeting. _______________________________________________ At 06:15 AM 1/27/00 -1000, Margaret Lewis wrote: >Note -- there might be some conflicts with Chautauqua and VMR groups using the >Access Grid since these meetings are scheduled at the same time -- will need to >work on time share schedule and distribute next week. > ___________________________________________________________ Tom Coffin .......................... tcoffin(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu

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Re: Alliance Meeting Updates
by Tom Coffin 27 Jan '00

27 Jan '00

hi Multiple meetings can be on the grid simultaneously. Simply mute audio from participants not in your meeting, and display video from participants in your meeting. _______________________________________________ At 06:15 AM 1/27/00 -1000, Margaret Lewis wrote: >Note -- there might be some conflicts with Chautauqua and VMR groups using the >Access Grid since these meetings are scheduled at the same time -- will need to >work on time share schedule and distribute next week. > ___________________________________________________________ Tom Coffin .......................... tcoffin(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu

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Alliance Meeting Updates
by Margaret Lewis 27 Jan '00

27 Jan '00

All, I know -- you can't believe those crazy folks at MHPCC are once again sending you a message! Notes for traveler follow the Meeting Schedule -- so scroll down and read!! MHPCC plans to have the Access Grid up and running to support the Alliance Meetings next week. I have attached a list of meetings -- I know that folks from NCSA and BU are planning on using the Grid to attend some of these meetings. If other sites are planning to attend remotely please let me know. Please note the time zone differences!!! Meeting Dates/Times -- all meetings are at MHPCC. GForce - Monday, Jan. 31, Steve Quinn is lead 8 am - 3 pm HST 11 am - 6 pm MST 12 pm - 7 pm CST 1 pm - 8 pm EST User Services - Monday, Jan. 31, Bruce Loftis is lead 3 pm - 5pm HST 6 pm - 8 pm MST 7 pm - 9 pm CST 8 pm - 10 pm EST PACS - Tuesday, Feb 1, Frank Gilfeather is lead 8 am - 5 pm HST 11 am - 8 pm MST 12 pm - 9 pm CST 1 pm - 10 pm EST PACS - Wednesday, Feb 2, Frank Gilfeather is lead 8 am - 12 pm HST 11 am - 3 pm MST 12 pm - 4 pm CST 1 pm - 5 pm EST Chautauqua - Wednesday, Feb 3, Margaret Lewis is lead 1 pm - 5 pm HST 4 pm - 8 pm MST 5 pm - 9 pm CST 6 pm - 10 pm EST VMR - Wednesday, Feb 3, Glenn Bresnahan is lead 1 pm - 5 pm HST 4 pm - 8 pm MST 5 pm - 9 pm CST 6 pm - 10 pm EST Note -- there might be some conflicts with Chautauqua and VMR groups using the Access Grid since these meetings are scheduled at the same time -- will need to work on time share schedule and distribute next week. Travel Notes: I am hoping there is a break in the weather so all folks traveling can make their flights out. If anyone has travel woes and needs to get in touch with me this weekend please feel free to call me at home at 808-875-7449 or 808-875-1479 or by cell phone at 808-283-8270. If you are looking for transportation from Airport to Hotel or Condo -- grab a Speedy Shuttle. They are an efficient and cost effective method of getting to our area and are at the airport on a continuous schedule. Cabs are also available. All meetings are at MHPCC. We will ask the Maui Prince to have a shuttle available a 7:45 am Tuesday and Wednesday to bring folks to MHPCC and also arrange for a return to the hotel. I can plan on picking up some folks from the Maui Coast on Tuesday and Wednesday if needed -- please advise me if you feel you will need a ride to MHPCC. Condo folks are on their own. We supply breakfast and lunch for meetings all meetings -- dinner is on your own. We will provide lists of dinner places and Maui Prince Shuttle is available to drop folks in the Kihei/Wailea area (check with front desk). Maui Coast is in walking distance of a number of eating places. Condo folks could cook dinners and invite the rest of us over??? I'll be glad to answer questions. Stay warm! margaret -- Margaret Lewis, AD of Marketing and Outreach MHPCC, 550 Lipoa Parkway, Kihei, Maui, HI 96753 808-879-5077 ext. 249 (voice) 808-879-5018 (fax) mlewis(a)mhpcc.edu

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January 26 AG Reservation
by Jeff Ramacher 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

*Sorry for the late notice on this* I'd like to schedule the AG bridge for tomorrow (January 26) noon-3pm central time for testing. Any available sites are welcome to attend. I know for sure UNM and MHPCC will be connecting, and possibly ACCESS-DC as well. Thanks in advance. -- Jeff Ramacher (jeffr(a)mhpcc.edu) | (808) 879-5077, x264 Maui High Performance Computing Center (MHPCC) | fax (808) 879-5018 | http://www.mhpcc.edu

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