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Re: [AG-TECH] Matrox G450 linux problems
by Robert Olson 26 Mar '01

26 Mar '01

>but I bailed on the problem after running into linux version problems >with the 4.0.?? Xserver and ag software. I bought a cheap linux What problem did you have? --bob

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Re: [AG-TECH] Matrox G450 linux problems
by Gary Orser 26 Mar '01

26 Mar '01

John, Yes I had trouble with the G450. I believe that the 4.0.?? X server is supposed to handle the G450 card, but I bailed on the problem after running into linux version problems with the 4.0.?? Xserver and ag software. I bought a cheap linux compatible video card. You don't need dual head on the linux boxes. Cheers, Gary ------------------------------------------------------ Gary Orser , (406) 994-6451, orser(a)nervana.montana.edu Montana State University Center for Computational Biology 1 Lewis Hall, Bozeman MT, 59717 On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, John A. Greenfield wrote: > > Has anyone else had problems with the linux install on some Matrox G450 > Dual haed cards ? Some cards seem to work fine, others seem to hang the > graphics install mode and always hang X after a text mode install. > Does anyone have fixes for this ? > > Thanks > > ************************************************************** > John Greenfield > green(a)ahpcc.unm.edu > University of New Mexico > THE ALBUQUERQUE HIGH PERFORMANCE COMPUTING CENTER > Office # 505-277-8249 > Direct # 505-277-9545 > Fax # 505-277-8235 > ************************************************************** > > >

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[Fwd: [Fwd: [AG-TECH] Matrox G450 linux problems]]
by Russ Wolf 26 Mar '01

26 Mar '01

Russ Wolf wrote: > > Russ Wolf wrote: > > > > from my experience the G450's don't like XFree86 version 3.x.x.x they > > really need a recompiled XFree86 version 4.x - but XFree-4 is not > > standard RedHat until 7.0 so you're better off with having built your > > own. > > > > Once you have it working you can only have the 1st of the two monitors > > display with a refresh rate over 60Hz and the second one is stuck at > > 60Hz > > > > -Russ > > > > "John A. Greenfield" wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone else had problems with the linux install on some Matrox G450 > > > Dual haed cards ? Some cards seem to work fine, others seem to hang the > > > graphics install mode and always hang X after a text mode install. > > > Does anyone have fixes for this ?

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Re: [AG-TECH] Matrox G450 linux problems
by Bob Olson 26 Mar '01

26 Mar '01

I think the fix is a new version of XFree86. Unfortunately, that probably doesn't help you much. The path of least resistance currently is to not use G450s on the Linux side. I will be releasing a RedHat 7.1 version of the capture machine when 7.1 comes out of beta. If you are interested in trying things out, you can install the 7.1 beta, and then install the AG RPMs on top. That combination worked fine for me in testing (although I have not tried it with a G450 yet). --bob On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, John A. Greenfield wrote: > > Has anyone else had problems with the linux install on some Matrox G450 > Dual haed cards ? Some cards seem to work fine, others seem to hang the > graphics install mode and always hang X after a text mode install. > Does anyone have fixes for this ? > > Thanks > > ************************************************************** > John Greenfield > green(a)ahpcc.unm.edu > University of New Mexico > THE ALBUQUERQUE HIGH PERFORMANCE COMPUTING CENTER > Office # 505-277-8249 > Direct # 505-277-9545 > Fax # 505-277-8235 > ************************************************************** > > > >

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ag reservation
by Tom Coffin 26 Mar '01

26 Mar '01

hi Please reserve Full Sail for this wednesday 3/28 at 10:00am-12noon eastern time (1500-1700 UTC) Immersive Demonstration and Presentation of Large-Scale Simulated Earthquake Ground-Motion and Building Response Abstract An NSF ERC connectivity grant has brought together a diverse group of researchers from Mississippi State University (Michael Stokes) , the University of California Berkeley (Greg Fenves), and Carnegie Mellon University (Jacobo Bielak) to couple earthquake ground motion with the structural response of man-made structures. The ultimate goal of the SPUR (Seismic Performance of Urban Regions) grant is to predict the survivability of large scale infrastructure over a complete urban region to aid in disaster recovery and mitigation. The demonstration and presentation is to explore the progress to date of computational earthquake science and its dissemination and interpretation using Internet based Web Portal technology and immersive visualization. ___________________________________________________________ Tom Coffin .......................... tcoffin(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu

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Matrox G450 linux problems
by John A. Greenfield 26 Mar '01

26 Mar '01

Has anyone else had problems with the linux install on some Matrox G450 Dual haed cards ? Some cards seem to work fine, others seem to hang the graphics install mode and always hang X after a text mode install. Does anyone have fixes for this ? Thanks ************************************************************** John Greenfield green(a)ahpcc.unm.edu University of New Mexico THE ALBUQUERQUE HIGH PERFORMANCE COMPUTING CENTER Office # 505-277-8249 Direct # 505-277-9545 Fax # 505-277-8235 **************************************************************

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Re: [AG-TECH] problem of BTTV cards in different PCI slots.
by Gary Orser 26 Mar '01

26 Mar '01

Lu Jian, Had the same problem. (see below for the reason) I think we need a driver update, but I haven't tracked that down. Until the driver update, I think we're limited to 3 camera's. Cheers, Gary ------------------------------------------------------ Gary Orser , (406) 994-6451, orser(a)nervana.montana.edu Montana State University Center for Computational Biology 1 Lewis Hall, Bozeman MT, 59717 On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, [ISO-8859-1] ¬�� wrote: > I bought a DELL Precision 2 CPU 420 MT workstation for Video capturing. I want to use 4 Pinnacle miroVideo PCTV cards. > This Dell 420 machine has 5 PCI slots. I find PCI1,PCI2,and PCI3 works correctly with PCTV cards and VIC. > The problem is that when I put the card into PCI4 or PCI5, the command " modprobe bttv" is OK, but VIC doesn't capture image, it doesn't respond. > I tried Linux kernel 2.2.16 and 2.2.14, neither works. But in Win98 and 2000, PCTV in PCI 4 and PCI 5 works good. and I also tried some other BT848 cards and find the same result. > I cannt find any difference between these PCI slots. Can you tell me why in Linux PCTV and VIC works good in PCI1-3 slots, but refuse to work in PCI4&5 slots? Shall I change bttv drivers in Linux? > Thanks in advance > > Lu Jian > > > > > http://premiersupport.dell.com/us/en/kb/document.asp?nav=Knowledge_Base&DN=… > > > > PCI Devices May Function Incorrectly on the Dell Precision? > WorkStation x20 Systems > > Problem: Peripheral Component Interface (PCI) devices > may function incorrectly on Dell Precision WorkStation > x20 systems.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = > "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> > > Discussion: WorkStation x20 systems use the new Intel > 820 and 840 chipsets, which incorporate the new hublink > design architecture. In this design, interconnected hubs > perform specialized functions. One of these hubs is called > the I/O Control Hub (ICH). The PCI bus, which > implements PCI 2.2, is connected directly to the ICH on > the 820 and 840 chipsets. Because of this, PCI devices see > the ICH as a bridge, which may present problems in > firmware and/or drivers that cannot negotiate PCI > bridging. In addition, an Intel 21152AB PCI-to-PCI bridge > resides (electrically) behind the ICH. Some devices may > work behind the ICH, but do not work correctly behind the > Intel bridge. The following is a list of devices that are > known to function incorrectly: > > > Drivers and/or firmware for PCI devices that do not have > the appropriate PCI bridging technology do not work in > any of the PCI slots. > > > Montego I and II PCI sound cards generate errors in the > Microsoft Windows 98 operating system stating that > the card should be moved to the primary PCI bus. These > cards do not work in any of the PCI slots on WorkStation > x20 systems. > > > Creative Labs PCI64V sound cards do not work in PCI slots > 4 and 5 (located behind the Intel PCI-to-PCI bridge chip) > on WorkStation 420 systems. The PCI64V sound cards > function correctly in PCI slots 1, 2, and 3. > > > Under the Windows NT 4.0 operating system, 3Com > Coyote modems work only in slots 4 and 5 (located behind > the Intel PCI-to-PCI bridge chip) on WorkStation 420 > systems because PCI resources are incorrectly assigned > in the Windows NT hal.dll file. Using the /PCILOCK > switch in the boot.ini file causes Windows NT to reassign > PCI resources and resolve the conflict. This problem only > occurs with PCI devices that use prefetchable memory > transactions. > > The PCI 2.2 specification does not allow for memory > address ranges below 1 MB. If a PCI device attempts to > access a memory address below 1 MB, a BIOS > plug-and-play error message is generated. > > Solution: All factory-installed PCI devices offered by Dell > (excluding Dell Plus configurations) are compatible with > WorkStation x20 systems. If problems occur while you are > installing a third-party PCI device, contact the > manufacturer of the PCI device in question for > information and a resolution to your problem. On > WorkStation x20 systems, the card must follow the PCI 2.2 > specification and be able to negotiate PCI bridges in both > firmware and drivers to work correctly with the system. If > a PCI card does not meet these guidelines, Dell cannot > guarantee that the card will function properly in these > systems. > > Possible solutions include: > > Clear the system NVRAM by entering the BIOS > setup, activating the <Caps Lock>, <Scroll Lock>, > and <Num Lock> keys, and then pressing <Alt><E>. > Test the card in all of the slots located behind the > ICH on the WorkStation x20 system. > > NOTE: On the WorkStation 420, slots 4 and 5 are > behind the Intel 21152AB PCI-to-PCI bridge chip. > > If you are using Windows NT 4.0, try the /PCILOCK > switch. Place the /PCILOCK switch in the boot.ini > file, which is located in the root directory of the boot > drive (typically c). > > >

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problem of BTTV cards in different PCI slots.
by Â¬½£ 25 Mar '01

25 Mar '01

I bought a DELL Precision 2 CPU 420 MT workstation for Video capturing. I want to use 4 Pinnacle miroVideo PCTV cards. This Dell 420 machine has 5 PCI slots. I find PCI1,PCI2,and PCI3 works correctly with PCTV cards and VIC. The problem is that when I put the card into PCI4 or PCI5, the command " modprobe bttv" is OK, but VIC doesn't capture image, it doesn't respond. I tried Linux kernel 2.2.16 and 2.2.14, neither works. But in Win98 and 2000, PCTV in PCI 4 and PCI 5 works good. and I also tried some other BT848 cards and find the same result. I cannt find any difference between these PCI slots. Can you tell me why in Linux PCTV and VIC works good in PCI1-3 slots, but refuse to work in PCI4&5 slots? Shall I change bttv drivers in Linux? Thanks in advance Lu Jian

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TestRoom bridge
by Don Morton 24 Mar '01

24 Mar '01

Hi, On several occasions I've tried to use the ANL bridge to get to the Test Room but, when I fire up vtc to try to get there, I get a message saying something to the effect that there's no meeting room by that name. Since the venues.accessgrid.org page actually shows vtc commands for bridge usage to the Test Room, I "assume" it's meant to be up... is it just a matter of something going down and my needing to ask somebody to fire something back up? Thanks, Don -- Don Morton http://www.cs.umt.edu/u/morton/ Department of Computer Science The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 | Voice (406) 243-4975 | Fax (406) 243-5139

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Re: [AG-TECH] How to see "all" vic objects?
by Don Morton 23 Mar '01

23 Mar '01

Lisa Childers wrote: > > The way to do this is to give focus to the vic thumbnail view, hit the > number of columns you wish (like "7".) As bob mentions, there is an upper > limit. This option is not available via the vic menus. Thank you Lisa, I just knew it had to be one of these obscure fixes :) Actually, "obscure" means that I still need to look closely at vic documentation :) Don -- Don Morton http://www.cs.umt.edu/u/morton/ Department of Computer Science The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 | Voice (406) 243-4975 | Fax (406) 243-5139

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