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Starting the WG in 15 minutes from now
by Aurelien Bouteiller 28 Feb '17

28 Feb '17

All, We are going to start the Error management WG in 15 minutes. Info about the webex are available here: http://mpi-forum.org/meetings/2017/02/agenda

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Re: [mpiwg-ft] Meeting Schedule Doodle
by Bland, Wesley 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

I just wanted to point out that the Doodle poll is in Central Time. I did check and make sure I put that in this time, but I noticed that a lot of west coasters are signing up for the 9AM / 7AM call that you might not actually want to participate in. You might want to double check your times. On Feb 14, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Bland, Wesley <wesley.bland(a)intel.com<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi all, As per the request from Keita, let's revisit our schedule for the bi-weekly con call. I've set up a Doodle poll here: http://doodle.com/poll/s5uvmpux4nc6ki4y Please take a look and respond with your preferred dates. Of course, I just picked the next week that we're scheduled to meet, but please consider only your recurring conflicts, not anything specific to that week. I'll check the responses on Friday morning and pick a new date so please respond by the end of Thursday. Thanks, Wesley

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Meeting Schedule Doodle
by Bland, Wesley 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

Hi all, As per the request from Keita, let's revisit our schedule for the bi-weekly con call. I've set up a Doodle poll here: http://doodle.com/poll/s5uvmpux4nc6ki4y Please take a look and respond with your preferred dates. Of course, I just picked the next week that we're scheduled to meet, but please consider only your recurring conflicts, not anything specific to that week. I'll check the responses on Friday morning and pick a new date so please respond by the end of Thursday. Thanks, Wesley

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Re: [mpiwg-ft] [EXTERNAL] Re: FTWG Call Today
by Bland, Wesley 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

We haven't had a review of the meeting time in a while. I'll send out a doodle. > On Feb 14, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Teranishi, Keita <knteran(a)sandia.gov> wrote: > > Hi, > > It will be hard for me to attend the meeting on time in the future meetings. > > Thanks, > Keita > > On 2/14/17, 11:57 AM, "mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of Van Der Wijngaart, Rob F" <mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of rob.f.van.der.wijngaart(a)intel.com> wrote: > > Hi Keita, > It looks like folks are in favor of canceling today's meeting. > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Teranishi, Keita > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:51 AM > To: MPI WG Fault Tolerance and Dynamic Process Control working Group <mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>; Ignacio Laguna <ilaguna(a)llnl.gov> > Subject: Re: [mpiwg-ft] [EXTERNAL] Re: FTWG Call Today > > All, > > > I am having the conflict. It will be great if we can shift the meeting by 30 minutes. > > > Thanks, > Keita > > On 2/14/17, 11:01 AM, "mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of Bland, Wesley" <mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of wesley.bland(a)intel.com> wrote: > > Discussing them next meeting would be fine. > > From here on for the next couple of months, I might be a bit spotty. I'll be taking most of March off for our new baby. So if I don't send an email, you're welcome to assume that I'm gone and you can meet without me. :) > >> On Feb 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ignacio Laguna <lagunaperalt1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: >> >> Hi Wesley and all, >> >> I think it's safe to cancel today's call. >> >> Regarding my tasks, we do have slides of the Reinit (backward recovery) proposal that I can present at any time. Perhaps we can discuss them in the next call/meeting? I have in my the to-do list to write text about combining the two recovery models (backward and forward recovery), but I haven't made progress on that. >> >> >> -- >> Ignacio Laguna >> Center for Applied Scientific Computing (CASC) >> Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory >> Phone: 925-422-7308, Fax: 925-422-6287 >> >> On 2/14/17 8:26 AM, Bland, Wesley wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> We have the FTWG call scheduled for today. AFAIK, we aren't planning any >>> activity at the upcoming meeting. I'll get the non-ULFM issues ready for >>> the next meeting that I'll be attending (likely September) and the >>> ULFM/ULFM+/Reinit discussions should continue in the meantime. >>> >>> is there something to discuss today? *I propose cancelling the call* >>> since I don't think anyone has made progress that requires a phone call, >>> but we can sync up a little bit over email. >>> >>> ==== >>> >>> We've been floundering for a while as people have had other deadlines >>> and distractions. Looking back at the notes from our last call in >>> December, I believe the TODO items are for Aurelien, Ignacio, and myself >>> to flesh out the three FT recovery proposals and then see how they would >>> interact with each other. >>> >>> * I believe Aurelien had some ideas about how to overcome some of the >>> problems raised at the last meeting. Aurelien, if you could put together >>> a slide or two that we could use for the discussion, that would probably >>> be helpful. >>> * I'm not sure of the status of Ignacio putting together some slides for >>> the reinit proposal. If I remember the meeting long ago in San Jose, we >>> just looked at a header. It might be nice to have something a little >>> more high level to point to. >>> * I still need to make the slides for the auto recovery strategy that >>> Martin proposed. >>> >>> Once that's done, we can see where these things interact and how >>> difficult it would be to support them together. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> Wesley >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpiwg-ft mailing list >>> mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-ft mailing list >> mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-ft mailing list > mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-ft mailing list > mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-ft mailing list > mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-ft mailing list > mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft

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Re: [mpiwg-ft] [EXTERNAL] Re: FTWG Call Today
by Teranishi, Keita 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

Hi, It will be hard for me to attend the meeting on time in the future meetings. Thanks, Keita On 2/14/17, 11:57 AM, "mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of Van Der Wijngaart, Rob F" <mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of rob.f.van.der.wijngaart(a)intel.com> wrote: Hi Keita, It looks like folks are in favor of canceling today's meeting. Rob -----Original Message----- From: mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Teranishi, Keita Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:51 AM To: MPI WG Fault Tolerance and Dynamic Process Control working Group <mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>; Ignacio Laguna <ilaguna(a)llnl.gov> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-ft] [EXTERNAL] Re: FTWG Call Today All, I am having the conflict. It will be great if we can shift the meeting by 30 minutes. Thanks, Keita On 2/14/17, 11:01 AM, "mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of Bland, Wesley" <mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of wesley.bland(a)intel.com> wrote: Discussing them next meeting would be fine. From here on for the next couple of months, I might be a bit spotty. I'll be taking most of March off for our new baby. So if I don't send an email, you're welcome to assume that I'm gone and you can meet without me. :) > On Feb 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ignacio Laguna <lagunaperalt1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > > Hi Wesley and all, > > I think it's safe to cancel today's call. > > Regarding my tasks, we do have slides of the Reinit (backward recovery) proposal that I can present at any time. Perhaps we can discuss them in the next call/meeting? I have in my the to-do list to write text about combining the two recovery models (backward and forward recovery), but I haven't made progress on that. > > > -- > Ignacio Laguna > Center for Applied Scientific Computing (CASC) > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory > Phone: 925-422-7308, Fax: 925-422-6287 > > On 2/14/17 8:26 AM, Bland, Wesley wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> We have the FTWG call scheduled for today. AFAIK, we aren't planning any >> activity at the upcoming meeting. I'll get the non-ULFM issues ready for >> the next meeting that I'll be attending (likely September) and the >> ULFM/ULFM+/Reinit discussions should continue in the meantime. >> >> is there something to discuss today? *I propose cancelling the call* >> since I don't think anyone has made progress that requires a phone call, >> but we can sync up a little bit over email. >> >> ==== >> >> We've been floundering for a while as people have had other deadlines >> and distractions. Looking back at the notes from our last call in >> December, I believe the TODO items are for Aurelien, Ignacio, and myself >> to flesh out the three FT recovery proposals and then see how they would >> interact with each other. >> >> * I believe Aurelien had some ideas about how to overcome some of the >> problems raised at the last meeting. Aurelien, if you could put together >> a slide or two that we could use for the discussion, that would probably >> be helpful. >> * I'm not sure of the status of Ignacio putting together some slides for >> the reinit proposal. If I remember the meeting long ago in San Jose, we >> just looked at a header. It might be nice to have something a little >> more high level to point to. >> * I still need to make the slides for the auto recovery strategy that >> Martin proposed. >> >> Once that's done, we can see where these things interact and how >> difficult it would be to support them together. >> >> Thoughts? >> Wesley >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-ft mailing list >> mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft >> > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-ft mailing list > mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft _______________________________________________ mpiwg-ft mailing list mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft _______________________________________________ mpiwg-ft mailing list mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft _______________________________________________ mpiwg-ft mailing list mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft

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Re: [mpiwg-ft] [EXTERNAL] Re: FTWG Call Today
by Van Der Wijngaart, Rob F 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

Hi Keita, It looks like folks are in favor of canceling today's meeting. Rob -----Original Message----- From: mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Teranishi, Keita Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:51 AM To: MPI WG Fault Tolerance and Dynamic Process Control working Group <mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>; Ignacio Laguna <ilaguna(a)llnl.gov> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-ft] [EXTERNAL] Re: FTWG Call Today All, I am having the conflict. It will be great if we can shift the meeting by 30 minutes. Thanks, Keita On 2/14/17, 11:01 AM, "mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of Bland, Wesley" <mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of wesley.bland(a)intel.com> wrote: Discussing them next meeting would be fine. From here on for the next couple of months, I might be a bit spotty. I'll be taking most of March off for our new baby. So if I don't send an email, you're welcome to assume that I'm gone and you can meet without me. :) > On Feb 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ignacio Laguna <lagunaperalt1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > > Hi Wesley and all, > > I think it's safe to cancel today's call. > > Regarding my tasks, we do have slides of the Reinit (backward recovery) proposal that I can present at any time. Perhaps we can discuss them in the next call/meeting? I have in my the to-do list to write text about combining the two recovery models (backward and forward recovery), but I haven't made progress on that. > > > -- > Ignacio Laguna > Center for Applied Scientific Computing (CASC) > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory > Phone: 925-422-7308, Fax: 925-422-6287 > > On 2/14/17 8:26 AM, Bland, Wesley wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> We have the FTWG call scheduled for today. AFAIK, we aren't planning any >> activity at the upcoming meeting. I'll get the non-ULFM issues ready for >> the next meeting that I'll be attending (likely September) and the >> ULFM/ULFM+/Reinit discussions should continue in the meantime. >> >> is there something to discuss today? *I propose cancelling the call* >> since I don't think anyone has made progress that requires a phone call, >> but we can sync up a little bit over email. >> >> ==== >> >> We've been floundering for a while as people have had other deadlines >> and distractions. Looking back at the notes from our last call in >> December, I believe the TODO items are for Aurelien, Ignacio, and myself >> to flesh out the three FT recovery proposals and then see how they would >> interact with each other. >> >> * I believe Aurelien had some ideas about how to overcome some of the >> problems raised at the last meeting. Aurelien, if you could put together >> a slide or two that we could use for the discussion, that would probably >> be helpful. >> * I'm not sure of the status of Ignacio putting together some slides for >> the reinit proposal. If I remember the meeting long ago in San Jose, we >> just looked at a header. It might be nice to have something a little >> more high level to point to. >> * I still need to make the slides for the auto recovery strategy that >> Martin proposed. >> >> Once that's done, we can see where these things interact and how >> difficult it would be to support them together. >> >> Thoughts? >> Wesley >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-ft mailing list >> mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft >> > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-ft mailing list > mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft _______________________________________________ mpiwg-ft mailing list mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft _______________________________________________ mpiwg-ft mailing list mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft

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Re: [mpiwg-ft] [EXTERNAL] Re: FTWG Call Today
by Teranishi, Keita 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

All, I am having the conflict. It will be great if we can shift the meeting by 30 minutes. Thanks, Keita On 2/14/17, 11:01 AM, "mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of Bland, Wesley" <mpiwg-ft-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of wesley.bland(a)intel.com> wrote: Discussing them next meeting would be fine. From here on for the next couple of months, I might be a bit spotty. I'll be taking most of March off for our new baby. So if I don't send an email, you're welcome to assume that I'm gone and you can meet without me. :) > On Feb 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ignacio Laguna <lagunaperalt1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > > Hi Wesley and all, > > I think it's safe to cancel today's call. > > Regarding my tasks, we do have slides of the Reinit (backward recovery) proposal that I can present at any time. Perhaps we can discuss them in the next call/meeting? I have in my the to-do list to write text about combining the two recovery models (backward and forward recovery), but I haven't made progress on that. > > > -- > Ignacio Laguna > Center for Applied Scientific Computing (CASC) > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory > Phone: 925-422-7308, Fax: 925-422-6287 > > On 2/14/17 8:26 AM, Bland, Wesley wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> We have the FTWG call scheduled for today. AFAIK, we aren't planning any >> activity at the upcoming meeting. I'll get the non-ULFM issues ready for >> the next meeting that I'll be attending (likely September) and the >> ULFM/ULFM+/Reinit discussions should continue in the meantime. >> >> is there something to discuss today? *I propose cancelling the call* >> since I don't think anyone has made progress that requires a phone call, >> but we can sync up a little bit over email. >> >> ==== >> >> We've been floundering for a while as people have had other deadlines >> and distractions. Looking back at the notes from our last call in >> December, I believe the TODO items are for Aurelien, Ignacio, and myself >> to flesh out the three FT recovery proposals and then see how they would >> interact with each other. >> >> * I believe Aurelien had some ideas about how to overcome some of the >> problems raised at the last meeting. Aurelien, if you could put together >> a slide or two that we could use for the discussion, that would probably >> be helpful. >> * I'm not sure of the status of Ignacio putting together some slides for >> the reinit proposal. If I remember the meeting long ago in San Jose, we >> just looked at a header. It might be nice to have something a little >> more high level to point to. >> * I still need to make the slides for the auto recovery strategy that >> Martin proposed. >> >> Once that's done, we can see where these things interact and how >> difficult it would be to support them together. >> >> Thoughts? >> Wesley >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-ft mailing list >> mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft >> > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-ft mailing list > mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft _______________________________________________ mpiwg-ft mailing list mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft

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Re: [mpiwg-ft] FTWG Call Today
by Bland, Wesley 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

Discussing them next meeting would be fine. >From here on for the next couple of months, I might be a bit spotty. I'll be taking most of March off for our new baby. So if I don't send an email, you're welcome to assume that I'm gone and you can meet without me. :) > On Feb 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ignacio Laguna <lagunaperalt1(a)llnl.gov> wrote: > > Hi Wesley and all, > > I think it's safe to cancel today's call. > > Regarding my tasks, we do have slides of the Reinit (backward recovery) proposal that I can present at any time. Perhaps we can discuss them in the next call/meeting? I have in my the to-do list to write text about combining the two recovery models (backward and forward recovery), but I haven't made progress on that. > > > -- > Ignacio Laguna > Center for Applied Scientific Computing (CASC) > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory > Phone: 925-422-7308, Fax: 925-422-6287 > > On 2/14/17 8:26 AM, Bland, Wesley wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> We have the FTWG call scheduled for today. AFAIK, we aren't planning any >> activity at the upcoming meeting. I'll get the non-ULFM issues ready for >> the next meeting that I'll be attending (likely September) and the >> ULFM/ULFM+/Reinit discussions should continue in the meantime. >> >> is there something to discuss today? *I propose cancelling the call* >> since I don't think anyone has made progress that requires a phone call, >> but we can sync up a little bit over email. >> >> ==== >> >> We've been floundering for a while as people have had other deadlines >> and distractions. Looking back at the notes from our last call in >> December, I believe the TODO items are for Aurelien, Ignacio, and myself >> to flesh out the three FT recovery proposals and then see how they would >> interact with each other. >> >> * I believe Aurelien had some ideas about how to overcome some of the >> problems raised at the last meeting. Aurelien, if you could put together >> a slide or two that we could use for the discussion, that would probably >> be helpful. >> * I'm not sure of the status of Ignacio putting together some slides for >> the reinit proposal. If I remember the meeting long ago in San Jose, we >> just looked at a header. It might be nice to have something a little >> more high level to point to. >> * I still need to make the slides for the auto recovery strategy that >> Martin proposed. >> >> Once that's done, we can see where these things interact and how >> difficult it would be to support them together. >> >> Thoughts? >> Wesley >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-ft mailing list >> mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft >> > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-ft mailing list > mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft

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Re: [mpiwg-ft] FTWG Call Today
by Ignacio Laguna 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

Hi Wesley and all, I think it's safe to cancel today's call. Regarding my tasks, we do have slides of the Reinit (backward recovery) proposal that I can present at any time. Perhaps we can discuss them in the next call/meeting? I have in my the to-do list to write text about combining the two recovery models (backward and forward recovery), but I haven't made progress on that. -- Ignacio Laguna Center for Applied Scientific Computing (CASC) Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Phone: 925-422-7308, Fax: 925-422-6287 On 2/14/17 8:26 AM, Bland, Wesley wrote: > Hi all, > > We have the FTWG call scheduled for today. AFAIK, we aren't planning any > activity at the upcoming meeting. I'll get the non-ULFM issues ready for > the next meeting that I'll be attending (likely September) and the > ULFM/ULFM+/Reinit discussions should continue in the meantime. > > is there something to discuss today? *I propose cancelling the call* > since I don't think anyone has made progress that requires a phone call, > but we can sync up a little bit over email. > > ==== > > We've been floundering for a while as people have had other deadlines > and distractions. Looking back at the notes from our last call in > December, I believe the TODO items are for Aurelien, Ignacio, and myself > to flesh out the three FT recovery proposals and then see how they would > interact with each other. > > * I believe Aurelien had some ideas about how to overcome some of the > problems raised at the last meeting. Aurelien, if you could put together > a slide or two that we could use for the discussion, that would probably > be helpful. > * I'm not sure of the status of Ignacio putting together some slides for > the reinit proposal. If I remember the meeting long ago in San Jose, we > just looked at a header. It might be nice to have something a little > more high level to point to. > * I still need to make the slides for the auto recovery strategy that > Martin proposed. > > Once that's done, we can see where these things interact and how > difficult it would be to support them together. > > Thoughts? > Wesley > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-ft mailing list > mpiwg-ft(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-ft >

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FTWG Call Today
by Bland, Wesley 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

Hi all, We have the FTWG call scheduled for today. AFAIK, we aren't planning any activity at the upcoming meeting. I'll get the non-ULFM issues ready for the next meeting that I'll be attending (likely September) and the ULFM/ULFM+/Reinit discussions should continue in the meantime. is there something to discuss today? I propose cancelling the call since I don't think anyone has made progress that requires a phone call, but we can sync up a little bit over email. ==== We've been floundering for a while as people have had other deadlines and distractions. Looking back at the notes from our last call in December, I believe the TODO items are for Aurelien, Ignacio, and myself to flesh out the three FT recovery proposals and then see how they would interact with each other. * I believe Aurelien had some ideas about how to overcome some of the problems raised at the last meeting. Aurelien, if you could put together a slide or two that we could use for the discussion, that would probably be helpful. * I'm not sure of the status of Ignacio putting together some slides for the reinit proposal. If I remember the meeting long ago in San Jose, we just looked at a header. It might be nice to have something a little more high level to point to. * I still need to make the slides for the auto recovery strategy that Martin proposed. Once that's done, we can see where these things interact and how difficult it would be to support them together. Thoughts? Wesley

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