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Re: [Release-team] Fwd: 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon
by Dan Olson 04 May '13

04 May '13

There will be an updated vm, likely tuesday. ---- Daniel Murphy-Olson Systems Administrator Mathematics & Computer Science Division Argonne National Laboratory 630-252-0055 ----- Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > Hey Guys, > > I got the approval to send Susan Gregurick a laptop preloaded with KBase. I have Virtual Box installed. I'm blocking on an ubuntu image and a dmg. Will there be a new ubuntu image and/or dmg this week? About all I imagine is auth and genome annotation modules would be redeployed on the vm and dmg. > > Let me know what you think. Otherwise, I;ll just preload the old image and dmg and ship it to her. > > Thanks, > Tom > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> > > Subject: Re: 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon > > Date: May 2, 2013 11:37:45 AM CDT > > To: Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> > > > > I guess we just disagree about this. At any rate, we both have bigger things to worry about. > > I hope the Bootcamp is going well. Let's touch base at some point about the minor release. I have not been monitoring that as closely as perhaps I should. > > Nomi > > > > On May 2, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > > > >> > >>> I'm not willing > >> > >> > >> Am I missing something here? I'm sorry if my position upset you. This doesn't make sense to me. What is the harm in this. It could only be productive regardless if it is by your design or not. > >> > >> > >> > >> On May 2, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > >> > >>> I really do have another meeting at 3:30 CT (sorry for not communicating that), but at any rate, I'm not willing to talk to Tom Brown with Tom Brettin listening in, so let's just forget it. Go ahead and hire him, I'm sure he'll be fine. > >>> Nomi > >>> > >>> On May 2, 2013, at 8:32 AM, India Gordon <igordon(a)cels.anl.gov> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Good morning Nomi, > >>>> > >>>> I'm sorry. In your original e-mail you said you were available. Will you please let me know what time works for you? > >>>> > >>>> Thank you, > >>>> India > >>>> > >>>> On May 2, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> India, > >>>> > >>>> My proposal is to make my participation in the call optional when it comes to scheduling. While I would like to be on the call and would find it valuable, I think it's more important from a scheduling perspective to have the call with Nomi. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Tom > >>>> > >>>> On May 2, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm sorry, I already have a meeting at this time. > >>>>> Tom Brettin, I know you're busy with the Bootcamp--why don't we find a time to talk when that's over. > >>>>> Nomi > >>>>> > >>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 8:21 PM, brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> The following is a new meeting request: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Subject: 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon > >>>>>> Organizer: brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov > >>>>>> Sent By: "India S. Gordon" <igordon(a)cels.anl.gov> > >>>>>> Location: 888-850-4523, passcode: 416791, leader passcode (Tom only) 4167913 > >>>>>> Time: Friday, May 3, 2013, 3:30:00 PM - 4:30:00 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > >>>>>> Invitees: nlharris(a)lbl.gov; tomasbrown(a)gmail.com > >>>>>> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <meeting.ics> > > >

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Re: [Release-team] 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon
by Nomi Harris 04 May '13

04 May '13

Automating the dmg and app creation would be great, but I know how fiddly that kind of thing can be. I agree with Bob that our first goal should be to at least make it possible for someone else to also be able to build them. Nomi On May 4, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Robert Olson <olson(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > it's mostly just a stock deployment with some additional scripts to build the app and dmg. What we need is a standard platform to do it on, other than my laptop. > > --bob > > On May 4, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Shane Canon wrote: > >> >> Bob, >> >> How labor intensive is the process right now and what do you think the hurdles are to automating it? I think Tom and Dan captured >> this on a list of todos for infrastructure. Do you have the current steps documented anywhere? If so, we could use that to start >> moving towards automating it. We need to make similar strides on building the virtual machine images, tar balls, etc. I think Dan or Tom >> has made some progress on the later. >> >> --Shane >> >> >> On May 4, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Robert Olson <olson(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: >> >>> I started doing the dmg work when we started this build but got distracted along the way somehow. I'll shoot for doing one early this week. >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 4, 2013, at 7:46 AM, Thomas Brettin wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Guys, >>>> >>>> I got the approval to send Susan Gregurick a laptop preloaded with KBase. I have Virtual Box installed. I'm blocking on an ubuntu image and a dmg. Will there be a new ubuntu image and/or dmg this week? About all I imagine is auth and genome annotation modules would be redeployed on the vm and dmg.

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Re: [Release-team] 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon
by Robert Olson 04 May '13

04 May '13

it's mostly just a stock deployment with some additional scripts to build the app and dmg. What we need is a standard platform to do it on, other than my laptop. --bob On May 4, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Shane Canon wrote: > > Bob, > > How labor intensive is the process right now and what do you think the hurdles are to automating it? I think Tom and Dan captured > this on a list of todos for infrastructure. Do you have the current steps documented anywhere? If so, we could use that to start > moving towards automating it. We need to make similar strides on building the virtual machine images, tar balls, etc. I think Dan or Tom > has made some progress on the later. > > --Shane > > > On May 4, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Robert Olson <olson(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > >> I started doing the dmg work when we started this build but got distracted along the way somehow. I'll shoot for doing one early this week. >> >> >> >> On May 4, 2013, at 7:46 AM, Thomas Brettin wrote: >> >>> Hey Guys, >>> >>> I got the approval to send Susan Gregurick a laptop preloaded with KBase. I have Virtual Box installed. I'm blocking on an ubuntu image and a dmg. Will there be a new ubuntu image and/or dmg this week? About all I imagine is auth and genome annotation modules would be redeployed on the vm and dmg. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Release-team mailing list >> Release-team(a)lists.kbase.us >> https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/release-team >

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Re: [Release-team] 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon
by Shane Canon 04 May '13

04 May '13

Bob, How labor intensive is the process right now and what do you think the hurdles are to automating it? I think Tom and Dan captured this on a list of todos for infrastructure. Do you have the current steps documented anywhere? If so, we could use that to start moving towards automating it. We need to make similar strides on building the virtual machine images, tar balls, etc. I think Dan or Tom has made some progress on the later. --Shane On May 4, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Robert Olson <olson(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > I started doing the dmg work when we started this build but got distracted along the way somehow. I'll shoot for doing one early this week. > > > > On May 4, 2013, at 7:46 AM, Thomas Brettin wrote: > >> Hey Guys, >> >> I got the approval to send Susan Gregurick a laptop preloaded with KBase. I have Virtual Box installed. I'm blocking on an ubuntu image and a dmg. Will there be a new ubuntu image and/or dmg this week? About all I imagine is auth and genome annotation modules would be redeployed on the vm and dmg. > > > _______________________________________________ > Release-team mailing list > Release-team(a)lists.kbase.us > https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/release-team

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Re: [Release-team] 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon
by Robert Olson 04 May '13

04 May '13

I started doing the dmg work when we started this build but got distracted along the way somehow. I'll shoot for doing one early this week. On May 4, 2013, at 7:46 AM, Thomas Brettin wrote: > Hey Guys, > > I got the approval to send Susan Gregurick a laptop preloaded with KBase. I have Virtual Box installed. I'm blocking on an ubuntu image and a dmg. Will there be a new ubuntu image and/or dmg this week? About all I imagine is auth and genome annotation modules would be redeployed on the vm and dmg.

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Fwd: 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon
by Thomas Brettin 04 May '13

04 May '13

Hey Guys, I got the approval to send Susan Gregurick a laptop preloaded with KBase. I have Virtual Box installed. I'm blocking on an ubuntu image and a dmg. Will there be a new ubuntu image and/or dmg this week? About all I imagine is auth and genome annotation modules would be redeployed on the vm and dmg. Let me know what you think. Otherwise, I;ll just preload the old image and dmg and ship it to her. Thanks, Tom Begin forwarded message: > From: Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> > Subject: Re: 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon > Date: May 2, 2013 11:37:45 AM CDT > To: Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> > > I guess we just disagree about this. At any rate, we both have bigger things to worry about. > I hope the Bootcamp is going well. Let's touch base at some point about the minor release. I have not been monitoring that as closely as perhaps I should. > Nomi > > On May 2, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > >> >>> I'm not willing >> >> >> Am I missing something here? I'm sorry if my position upset you. This doesn't make sense to me. What is the harm in this. It could only be productive regardless if it is by your design or not. >> >> >> >> On May 2, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >> >>> I really do have another meeting at 3:30 CT (sorry for not communicating that), but at any rate, I'm not willing to talk to Tom Brown with Tom Brettin listening in, so let's just forget it. Go ahead and hire him, I'm sure he'll be fine. >>> Nomi >>> >>> On May 2, 2013, at 8:32 AM, India Gordon <igordon(a)cels.anl.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> Good morning Nomi, >>>> >>>> I'm sorry. In your original e-mail you said you were available. Will you please let me know what time works for you? >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> India >>>> >>>> On May 2, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: >>>> >>>> India, >>>> >>>> My proposal is to make my participation in the call optional when it comes to scheduling. While I would like to be on the call and would find it valuable, I think it's more important from a scheduling perspective to have the call with Nomi. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> On May 2, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm sorry, I already have a meeting at this time. >>>>> Tom Brettin, I know you're busy with the Bootcamp--why don't we find a time to talk when that's over. >>>>> Nomi >>>>> >>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 8:21 PM, brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The following is a new meeting request: >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: 3:30 - 4:30 pm CST Webmaster Candidate Telecon >>>>>> Organizer: brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov >>>>>> Sent By: "India S. Gordon" <igordon(a)cels.anl.gov> >>>>>> Location: 888-850-4523, passcode: 416791, leader passcode (Tom only) 4167913 >>>>>> Time: Friday, May 3, 2013, 3:30:00 PM - 4:30:00 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >>>>>> Invitees: nlharris(a)lbl.gov; tomasbrown(a)gmail.com >>>>>> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >>>>>> >>>>>> <meeting.ics> >

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Re: [Release-team] auth
by Stephen Chan 29 Apr '13

29 Apr '13

Hi Dan, Yes, its kludgy, but by design. The problem is that the auth HTML docs need to have a location to deploy to, but since it is a disembodied client only module, there wasn't anyplace that made sense aside from creating that directory. I would be happy to change it to another location if you prefer it elsewhere. Steve On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Dan Olson <dolson(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > This has been deployed onto the clients instance. > > Maybe this hasn't come up before, but the documentation appears to deploy > to the authorization_server > service_dir instead of auth. Is that by design, or did something fail to > deploy properly? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Thomas Brettin" <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> > > To: "Dan Olson" <dolson(a)mcs.anl.gov> > > Cc: release-team(a)lists.kbase.us > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:04:50 AM > > Subject: auth > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > Can you deploy this into testing this morning? > > > > Tom > > >

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Re: [Release-team] auth
by Nomi Harris 29 Apr '13

29 Apr '13

I think that makes sense. Hopefully we can get a better ticketing system in place very soon to make it easier to do this. :-) Nomi On Apr 29, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > what i would like to move towards is a ticket is created, then before we schedule something for the next release we check for outstanding tickets. > So in this case if steve wants to schedule auth for a minor release, we review auth for outstanding tickets first. I'm not saying that all outstanding tickets must be resolved before a minor release, just that we review them and let that influence our decision to put auth on the release schedule. > > Thoughts? > > > On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > >> Agreed. >> Nomi >> >> On Apr 29, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Michael Sneddon <mwsneddon(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >> >>> The problem is probably an out-of-date makefile. I assume we'll soon start to fail such modules that don't update to conform to the documentation standards as they are rereleased, and give owners a couple days during build week to make the fix. If it is critical to get auth running now though, then for this round it probably shouldn't be a deal beaker for deployment of auth. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >>> Weren't there other modules that deployed their docs into non-standard directories as well? Not that I think that's a good thing; I'm just saying I don't think auth is the only culprit. >>> Nomi >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Dan Olson <dolson(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: >>> >>> > This has been deployed onto the clients instance. >>> > >>> > Maybe this hasn't come up before, but the documentation appears to deploy to the authorization_server >>> > service_dir instead of auth. Is that by design, or did something fail to deploy properly? >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "Thomas Brettin" <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> >>> >> To: "Dan Olson" <dolson(a)mcs.anl.gov> >>> >> Cc: release-team(a)lists.kbase.us >>> >> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:04:50 AM >>> >> Subject: auth >>> >> >>> >> Hi Dan, >>> >> >>> >> Can you deploy this into testing this morning? >>> >> >>> >> Tom >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Release-team mailing list >> Release-team(a)lists.kbase.us >> https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/release-team >

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Re: [Release-team] auth
by Thomas Brettin 29 Apr '13

29 Apr '13

this is meant to address 'deal breakers' as you put it Mike. t On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > what i would like to move towards is a ticket is created, then before we schedule something for the next release we check for outstanding tickets. > So in this case if steve wants to schedule auth for a minor release, we review auth for outstanding tickets first. I'm not saying that all outstanding tickets must be resolved before a minor release, just that we review them and let that influence our decision to put auth on the release schedule. > > Thoughts? > > > On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > >> Agreed. >> Nomi >> >> On Apr 29, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Michael Sneddon <mwsneddon(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >> >>> The problem is probably an out-of-date makefile. I assume we'll soon start to fail such modules that don't update to conform to the documentation standards as they are rereleased, and give owners a couple days during build week to make the fix. If it is critical to get auth running now though, then for this round it probably shouldn't be a deal beaker for deployment of auth. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >>> Weren't there other modules that deployed their docs into non-standard directories as well? Not that I think that's a good thing; I'm just saying I don't think auth is the only culprit. >>> Nomi >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Dan Olson <dolson(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: >>> >>> > This has been deployed onto the clients instance. >>> > >>> > Maybe this hasn't come up before, but the documentation appears to deploy to the authorization_server >>> > service_dir instead of auth. Is that by design, or did something fail to deploy properly? >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "Thomas Brettin" <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> >>> >> To: "Dan Olson" <dolson(a)mcs.anl.gov> >>> >> Cc: release-team(a)lists.kbase.us >>> >> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:04:50 AM >>> >> Subject: auth >>> >> >>> >> Hi Dan, >>> >> >>> >> Can you deploy this into testing this morning? >>> >> >>> >> Tom >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Release-team mailing list >> Release-team(a)lists.kbase.us >> https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/release-team >

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Re: [Release-team] auth
by Thomas Brettin 29 Apr '13

29 Apr '13

what i would like to move towards is a ticket is created, then before we schedule something for the next release we check for outstanding tickets. So in this case if steve wants to schedule auth for a minor release, we review auth for outstanding tickets first. I'm not saying that all outstanding tickets must be resolved before a minor release, just that we review them and let that influence our decision to put auth on the release schedule. Thoughts? On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > Agreed. > Nomi > > On Apr 29, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Michael Sneddon <mwsneddon(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > >> The problem is probably an out-of-date makefile. I assume we'll soon start to fail such modules that don't update to conform to the documentation standards as they are rereleased, and give owners a couple days during build week to make the fix. If it is critical to get auth running now though, then for this round it probably shouldn't be a deal beaker for deployment of auth. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >> Weren't there other modules that deployed their docs into non-standard directories as well? Not that I think that's a good thing; I'm just saying I don't think auth is the only culprit. >> Nomi >> >> On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Dan Olson <dolson(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: >> >> > This has been deployed onto the clients instance. >> > >> > Maybe this hasn't come up before, but the documentation appears to deploy to the authorization_server >> > service_dir instead of auth. Is that by design, or did something fail to deploy properly? >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Thomas Brettin" <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> >> >> To: "Dan Olson" <dolson(a)mcs.anl.gov> >> >> Cc: release-team(a)lists.kbase.us >> >> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:04:50 AM >> >> Subject: auth >> >> >> >> Hi Dan, >> >> >> >> Can you deploy this into testing this morning? >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Release-team mailing list > Release-team(a)lists.kbase.us > https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/release-team

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