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Re: [mpiwg-sessions] MPI vForum tomorrow
by Dan Holmes 16 Mar '21

16 Mar '21

Hi Howard, That PR has been merged by Bill. Does it need to be discussed? Cheers, Dan. — Dr Daniel Holmes PhD Executive Director Chief Technology Officer CHI Ltd danholmes(a)chi.scot > On 16 Mar 2021, at 16:52, Pritchard Jr., Howard via mpiwg-sessions <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I believe we’re on the agenda for tomorrow’s vforum to discuss PR https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/563 <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/563> > > Unfortunately I have a conflict and will only be able to join for a short time at the beginning of the vforum – about 30 minutes. > > Just a heads up. > > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-sessions mailing list > mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions <https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions>

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MPI vForum tomorrow
by Pritchard Jr., Howard 16 Mar '21

16 Mar '21

Hi All, I believe we’re on the agenda for tomorrow’s vforum to discuss PR https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/563 Unfortunately I have a conflict and will only be able to join for a short time at the beginning of the vforum – about 30 minutes. Just a heads up. Howard

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Running late...
by Pritchard Jr., Howard 15 Mar '21

15 Mar '21

HI All, Given the trajectory of a meeting I’m currently attending, I’m likely to be joining the Sessions WG zoom late…~15 minutes or so. Howard

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Sessions WG - meet today
by Pritchard Jr., Howard 15 Mar '21

15 Mar '21

Hi All, We’ll meet today. Agenda * Anything left for PR https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/563 ? * Followup from Jan Fecht’s presentation? * Bubbles – discuss resuming? For those in the US, don’t forget that Europeans are not on daylight savings time currently. Your zoom invite should reflect this. Howard

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Sessions WG - meet today
by Pritchard Jr., Howard 08 Mar '21

08 Mar '21

Hi All, We’ll meet today. Current agenda * One of Martin’s students presents work on a Sessions prototype * If there is time, continue discussion of PR 547 - https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/547 Howard -- Howard Pritchard HPC-ENV Los Alamos National Laboratory

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Re: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet today
by Rolf Rabenseifner 02 Mar '21

02 Mar '21

Hi Dan and all, in the moment, it is not clear for me, what Bill and Wesley will do with the revert of the 7 PRs (445, 258, 484, 434, 444, 455+425). Yes, mainly all what is not in https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/files/6050186/mpi40-rc-feb-21_rab.p… or https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/files/6051904/mpi40-issue435-PR547-… or the first three commits in PR540 is not a errata-style-vote, i.e., would be a no-no-vote. The remaining three changes in PR519 are such after-the-meeting no-no-votes. But they seem to be correct and the last the middle one also necessary. Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Holmes, MPI" <danholmes(a)chi.scot> > To: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> > Cc: "mpiwg-sessions" <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 5:38:28 PM > Subject: Re: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet today > HI Rolf (et al), > > We should be very careful, from a procedural point-of-view, about creating new > issues now that we are properly past the end of the voting meeting. Any issue > created before the end of the voting meeting can be treated like an errata > (i.e. a single vote with a majority in favour carrying the day), but all issues > created after the voting meeting has ended must be treated as no-no-votes (i.e. > a single vote where every voting member has a unilateral veto). > > Thus: let us keep the existing crop of issues and fiddle only with the pull > requests. > > On a different note, there should be no reason to replace the existing PR either > - we merely need to fix the branch on which it is based. I have merged the > current mpi-4-rc branch into the branch behind PR519 and it now shows a much > small list of changes - things that are, I guess, really not in mpi-4-rc. > > Please re-check PR519 now does something we do want, nothing we don’t want, and > addresses the issue 424 with which it is 1-to-1 associated. > > Cheers, > Dan. > — > Dr Daniel Holmes PhD > Executive Director > Chief Technology Officer > CHI Ltd > danholmes(a)chi.scot > > > >> On 1 Mar 2021, at 21:44, Rolf Rabenseifner via mpiwg-sessions >> <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote: >> >> Dear Howard and all, >> >> sorry, but I saw your email too late. >> >> I wrote on PR519 the same comment that I gave during the MPI Forum meeting. >> If there are still not merged portions of PR519, then I recommend to >> close PR519 and to start a new small PR with exactly the not yet merged >> portions. >> >> And to add a new issue for that because it is outside of the >> PR435 + PR547 which is already read at the Feb. 2021 meeting >> and only requires a errata-style vote on next forum meeting. >> >> Best regards >> Rolf >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "mpiwg-sessions" <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >>> To: "mpiwg-sessions" <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >>> Cc: "Pritchard" <howardp(a)lanl.gov> >>> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 5:02:18 PM >>> Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet today >> >>> HI All, >>> >>> >>> >>> Let’s try to meet today. Items I have on the agenda: >>> >>> >>> >>> * Sort out where we are wrt issue 435 and the next release candidate >>> * What happened to these PRs >>> * [ https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/519 | >>> https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/519 >>> <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/519> ] >>> * [ https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/538 >>> <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/538> | >>> https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/538 ] >>> * MPI thread level and Sessions discussion – something for 4.1 >>> * MPI and dynamic process model (spawn), and what about connect/accept – >>> something for 4.1 >>> * Open MPI prototype update >>> * Other >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Howard >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Howard Pritchard >>> >>> HPC-ENV >>> >>> Los Alamos National Laboratory >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpiwg-sessions mailing list >>> mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions >> >> -- >> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de >> <mailto:[email protected]> . >> High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 . >> University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 . >> Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner >> <http://www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner> . >> Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) . >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-sessions mailing list >> mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions > > <https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions> -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de . High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 . University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 . Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner . Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) .

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Re: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet today
by Dan Holmes 02 Mar '21

02 Mar '21

HI Rolf (et al), We should be very careful, from a procedural point-of-view, about creating new issues now that we are properly past the end of the voting meeting. Any issue created before the end of the voting meeting can be treated like an errata (i.e. a single vote with a majority in favour carrying the day), but all issues created after the voting meeting has ended must be treated as no-no-votes (i.e. a single vote where every voting member has a unilateral veto). Thus: let us keep the existing crop of issues and fiddle only with the pull requests. On a different note, there should be no reason to replace the existing PR either - we merely need to fix the branch on which it is based. I have merged the current mpi-4-rc branch into the branch behind PR519 and it now shows a much small list of changes - things that are, I guess, really not in mpi-4-rc. Please re-check PR519 now does something we do want, nothing we don’t want, and addresses the issue 424 with which it is 1-to-1 associated. Cheers, Dan. — Dr Daniel Holmes PhD Executive Director Chief Technology Officer CHI Ltd danholmes(a)chi.scot > On 1 Mar 2021, at 21:44, Rolf Rabenseifner via mpiwg-sessions <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote: > > Dear Howard and all, > > sorry, but I saw your email too late. > > I wrote on PR519 the same comment that I gave during the MPI Forum meeting. > If there are still not merged portions of PR519, then I recommend to > close PR519 and to start a new small PR with exactly the not yet merged portions. > > And to add a new issue for that because it is outside of the > PR435 + PR547 which is already read at the Feb. 2021 meeting > and only requires a errata-style vote on next forum meeting. > > Best regards > Rolf > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "mpiwg-sessions" <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >> To: "mpiwg-sessions" <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >> Cc: "Pritchard" <howardp(a)lanl.gov> >> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 5:02:18 PM >> Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet today > >> HI All, >> >> >> >> Let’s try to meet today. Items I have on the agenda: >> >> >> >> * Sort out where we are wrt issue 435 and the next release candidate >> * What happened to these PRs >> * [ https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/519 | >> https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/519 <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/519> ] >> * [ https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/538 <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/538> | >> https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/538 ] >> * MPI thread level and Sessions discussion – something for 4.1 >> * MPI and dynamic process model (spawn), and what about connect/accept – >> something for 4.1 >> * Open MPI prototype update >> * Other >> >> >> >> >> Howard >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> Howard Pritchard >> >> HPC-ENV >> >> Los Alamos National Laboratory >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-sessions mailing list >> mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions > > -- > Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de <mailto:[email protected]> . > High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 . > University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 . > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner <http://www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner> . > Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) . > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-sessions mailing list > mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions <https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions>

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Re: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet today
by Rolf Rabenseifner 01 Mar '21

01 Mar '21

Dear Howard and all, sorry, but I saw your email too late. I wrote on PR519 the same comment that I gave during the MPI Forum meeting. If there are still not merged portions of PR519, then I recommend to close PR519 and to start a new small PR with exactly the not yet merged portions. And to add a new issue for that because it is outside of the PR435 + PR547 which is already read at the Feb. 2021 meeting and only requires a errata-style vote on next forum meeting. Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mpiwg-sessions" <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > To: "mpiwg-sessions" <mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Cc: "Pritchard" <howardp(a)lanl.gov> > Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 5:02:18 PM > Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet today > HI All, > > > > Let’s try to meet today. Items I have on the agenda: > > > > * Sort out where we are wrt issue 435 and the next release candidate > * What happened to these PRs > * [ https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/519 | > https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/519 ] > * [ https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/538 | > https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/538 ] > * MPI thread level and Sessions discussion – something for 4.1 > * MPI and dynamic process model (spawn), and what about connect/accept – > something for 4.1 > * Open MPI prototype update > * Other > > > > > Howard > > > > -- > > > > > Howard Pritchard > > HPC-ENV > > Los Alamos National Laboratory > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-sessions mailing list > mpiwg-sessions(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions -- Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de . High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530 . University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832 . Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner . Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307) .

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Sessions WG - meet today
by Pritchard Jr., Howard 01 Mar '21

01 Mar '21

HI All, Let’s try to meet today. Items I have on the agenda: * Sort out where we are wrt issue 435 and the next release candidate * What happened to these PRs * https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/519 * https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/538 * MPI thread level and Sessions discussion – something for 4.1 * MPI and dynamic process model (spawn), and what about connect/accept – something for 4.1 * Open MPI prototype update * Other Howard -- Howard Pritchard HPC-ENV Los Alamos National Laboratory

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