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Re: [mpiwg-persistence] Issue of embiggenment for Ticket #25--Persistent Collectives
by Wesley Bland 26 Mar '20

26 Mar '20

One thing that would be very helpful would be to make a clear line in the pull request where everything before that line is what was voted on originally and everything after is what was necessary for embiggenment. Since this almost entirely will show up in the LaTeX (with a few changes in the normative text too), it would be helpful to keep the unrelated changes (e.g. whitespace, comments, etc.) to a minimum to make it easy for people to see what’s changed at a glance. Thanks, Wes > On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Skjellum, Anthony via mpiwg-persistence <mpiwg-persistence(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote: > > Martin, it is fine to cover this as you suggest in the virtual meeting; hopefully we will do this via ticket 0 in the end. > I agree this has to come after Bill's email issues. > > Thank you > Tony > > Anthony Skjellum, PhD > Professor of Computer Science and Chair of Excellence > Director, SimCenter > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga (UTC) > tony-skjellum(a)utc.edu <mailto:[email protected]> [or skjellum(a)gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]>] > cell: 205-807-4968 > > From: mpiwg-persistence <mpiwg-persistence-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> on behalf of Martin Schulz via mpiwg-persistence <mpiwg-persistence(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:36 PM > To: Anthony Skjellum <skjellum(a)gmail.com> > Cc: MPI-3 Collective Subgroup Discussions <mpiwg-coll(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>; MPI WG Persistence working Group <mpiwg-persistence(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>; William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> > Subject: Re: [mpiwg-persistence] Issue of embiggenment for Ticket #25--Persistent Collectives > > Hi Tony, > > (Adding Bill and Wesley) > > We also talked about this today and we agree, that this should be done sooner than later, but we do need the other changes from Bill’s email taken care of first by the chapter committees. Only this will allow for easy merges - the goal is to get this done by next week (please help push the chapter committees you are working with). > > As for the procedure - we technically have handled that as a ticket 0 in past, but this has gotten larger. I would suggest we reserve part of a virtual meeting for that in which you can run through the changes. Based on the amount of reactions we can then decide whether this is truly ticket 0, or we need a vote (which IMHO would be an errata vote). > > Does this make sense and help? > Thanks! > > Martin > > > > — > Prof. Dr. Martin Schulz, Chair of Computer Architecture and Parallel Systems > Department of Informatics, TU-Munich, Boltzmannstraße 3, D-85748 Garching > Member of the Board of Directors at the Leibniz Supercomputing Centre (LRZ) > Email: schulzm(a)in.tum.de <mailto:[email protected]> > >> On 25. Mar 2020, at 15:44, Anthony Skjellum <skjellum(a)gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Dear Martin, we are at this time considering when we need to do the embiggenment work on the persistent collective operations. We think it should >> be done now. >> >> How should we proceed? >> >> 1) We propose to open a new ticket and new PR. Do you agree? >> 2) Is this strictly a chapter-author update? >> 3) Is this something to be voted? Errata? full ticket? >> >> Please advise us. >> >> Thank you in advance, >> Tony (on behalf of the WGs) >> >> -- >> Anthony Skjellum, PhD >> skjellum(a)gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]> >> Cell: +1-205-807-4968 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-persistence mailing list > mpiwg-persistence(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-persistence <https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-persistence>

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Re: [mpiwg-persistence] Issue of embiggenment for Ticket #25--Persistent Collectives
by Skjellum, Anthony 25 Mar '20

25 Mar '20

Martin, it is fine to cover this as you suggest in the virtual meeting; hopefully we will do this via ticket 0 in the end. I agree this has to come after Bill's email issues. Thank you Tony Anthony Skjellum, PhD Professor of Computer Science and Chair of Excellence Director, SimCenter University of Tennessee at Chattanooga (UTC) tony-skjellum(a)utc.edu [or skjellum(a)gmail.com] cell: 205-807-4968 ________________________________ From: mpiwg-persistence <mpiwg-persistence-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> on behalf of Martin Schulz via mpiwg-persistence <mpiwg-persistence(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:36 PM To: Anthony Skjellum <skjellum(a)gmail.com> Cc: MPI-3 Collective Subgroup Discussions <mpiwg-coll(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>; MPI WG Persistence working Group <mpiwg-persistence(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>; William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-persistence] Issue of embiggenment for Ticket #25--Persistent Collectives Hi Tony, (Adding Bill and Wesley) We also talked about this today and we agree, that this should be done sooner than later, but we do need the other changes from Bill’s email taken care of first by the chapter committees. Only this will allow for easy merges - the goal is to get this done by next week (please help push the chapter committees you are working with). As for the procedure - we technically have handled that as a ticket 0 in past, but this has gotten larger. I would suggest we reserve part of a virtual meeting for that in which you can run through the changes. Based on the amount of reactions we can then decide whether this is truly ticket 0, or we need a vote (which IMHO would be an errata vote). Does this make sense and help? Thanks! Martin — Prof. Dr. Martin Schulz, Chair of Computer Architecture and Parallel Systems Department of Informatics, TU-Munich, Boltzmannstraße 3, D-85748 Garching Member of the Board of Directors at the Leibniz Supercomputing Centre (LRZ) Email: schulzm(a)in.tum.de<mailto:[email protected]> On 25. Mar 2020, at 15:44, Anthony Skjellum <skjellum(a)gmail.com<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Dear Martin, we are at this time considering when we need to do the embiggenment work on the persistent collective operations. We think it should be done now. How should we proceed? 1) We propose to open a new ticket and new PR. Do you agree? 2) Is this strictly a chapter-author update? 3) Is this something to be voted? Errata? full ticket? Please advise us. Thank you in advance, Tony (on behalf of the WGs) -- Anthony Skjellum, PhD skjellum(a)gmail.com<mailto:[email protected]> Cell: +1-205-807-4968

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Re: [mpiwg-persistence] Issue of embiggenment for Ticket #25--Persistent Collectives
by Martin Schulz 25 Mar '20

25 Mar '20

Hi Tony, (Adding Bill and Wesley) We also talked about this today and we agree, that this should be done sooner than later, but we do need the other changes from Bill’s email taken care of first by the chapter committees. Only this will allow for easy merges - the goal is to get this done by next week (please help push the chapter committees you are working with). As for the procedure - we technically have handled that as a ticket 0 in past, but this has gotten larger. I would suggest we reserve part of a virtual meeting for that in which you can run through the changes. Based on the amount of reactions we can then decide whether this is truly ticket 0, or we need a vote (which IMHO would be an errata vote). Does this make sense and help? Thanks! Martin — Prof. Dr. Martin Schulz, Chair of Computer Architecture and Parallel Systems Department of Informatics, TU-Munich, Boltzmannstraße 3, D-85748 Garching Member of the Board of Directors at the Leibniz Supercomputing Centre (LRZ) Email: schulzm(a)in.tum.de > On 25. Mar 2020, at 15:44, Anthony Skjellum <skjellum(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Martin, we are at this time considering when we need to do the embiggenment work on the persistent collective operations. We think it should > be done now. > > How should we proceed? > > 1) We propose to open a new ticket and new PR. Do you agree? > 2) Is this strictly a chapter-author update? > 3) Is this something to be voted? Errata? full ticket? > > Please advise us. > > Thank you in advance, > Tony (on behalf of the WGs) > > -- > Anthony Skjellum, PhD > skjellum(a)gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]> > Cell: +1-205-807-4968 > >

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Issue of embiggenment for Ticket #25--Persistent Collectives
by Anthony Skjellum 25 Mar '20

25 Mar '20

Dear Martin, we are at this time considering *when* we need to do the embiggenment work on the persistent collective operations. We think it should be done now. How should we proceed? 1) We propose to open a new ticket and new PR. Do you agree? 2) Is this strictly a chapter-author update? 3) Is this something to be voted? Errata? full ticket? Please advise us. Thank you in advance, Tony (on behalf of the WGs) -- Anthony Skjellum, PhD skjellum(a)gmail.com Cell: +1-205-807-4968

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FW: [Mpi-forum] MPI Chapter committee signoffs needed
by Skjellum, Anthony 24 Mar '20

24 Mar '20

FYI ,we will review this tomorrow @ 10am eastern time meeting. Tony Anthony Skjellum, PhD Professor of Computer Science and Chair of Excellence Director, SimCenter University of Tennessee at Chattanooga (UTC) tony-skjellum(a)utc.edu [or skjellum(a)gmail.com] cell: 205-807-4968 ________________________________ From: mpi-forum <mpi-forum-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> on behalf of William Gropp via mpi-forum <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:37 AM To: mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mpi-forum(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Cc: William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> Subject: [EXT]: [Mpi-forum] MPI Chapter committee signoffs needed External Email To everyone in the MPI Forum, but especially the chairs of the MPI Chapter Committees, There are a number of updates that the Forum agreed to apply to the MPI standard that need to be reviewed and signed off by the chapter committees. The next group of these are the Fortran style changes, restricted to *not* include the change in lettercase for the Fortran keywords. As some of these had to be disentangled from commits that both fixed style issues and lettercase, these need to be reviewed again. They were posted quite a while back, but only a few reviews were received. In retrospect, I needed to set up a separate column in the signoff spreadsheet, which I’ve now done. You will find that in Column E, labeled “Editor Fortran style updates (revised)”; the spreadsheet is in the same place: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qPAREYgeuSCMtU-EQniDilrHIYb8W0-f6Qz… Please do the following (if you are a chapter chair): 1) If everything is fine with the changes, enter YES in the column and row for your chapter(s). 2) If you find a problem that needs to be changed (not something that you want to add), then: a) Enter NO b) Enter a comment on the PR page ( https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/145 ) about the issue c) If I am able to make the correction, change your entry to YES 3) ANY OTHER ENTRY WILL BE CONSIDERED A NO. This is the same interpretation used for the other reviews - and using this sheet to communicate changes has already slowed down the process of applying these edits. If you are on a chapter committee, please help your chapter chair. Others are welcome to review and communicate issues either on the PR page or with the appropriate chapter chair. I’d like to apply the Fortran style changes as soon as possible, and certainly within a week (April 1st, an appropriate day). Thanks for your help! Bill William Gropp Director and Chief Scientist, NCSA Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign This message is not from a UTC.EDU address. Caution should be used in clicking links and downloading attachments from unknown senders or unexpected email.

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No meeting today
by Anthony Skjellum 18 Mar '20

18 Mar '20

Hi, if you get a duplicate cancellation, sorry. We will resume (with some normalcy) this meeting next week. I simply have to cancel today to deal with emerging planning issues at my center. I hope all is well with you all. Thanks, Tony -- Anthony Skjellum, PhD skjellum(a)gmail.com Cell: +1-205-807-4968

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Canceled: MPI Persistent/Collective WGs Weekly Meeting
by Skjellum, Anthony 18 Mar '20

18 Mar '20

Hi, I have to cope with urgent issues; let's resume next week.

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Meeting at 10am Eastern Wednesday
by Anthony Skjellum 10 Mar '20

10 Mar '20

We will meet Wednesday to discuss current work and proposals for MPI 4.x -- Anthony Skjellum, PhD skjellum(a)gmail.com Cell: +1-205-807-4968

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