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current punch list
by Thomas Brettin 28 Jan '13

28 Jan '13

Because we're going to run a new release this am, and we still have one going, I'm going to hold off on making changes to the whole document, and to to each section hopefully shortly before that phase starts. So please revisit the punch list. Dan, there was a change to the first phase 'deploy to test' in the email notification recipients. Thomas Brettin 865-603-7760 (cell) brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov

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Re: [Release-team] Need downloadable KBase product for Windows
by Land, Miriam L. 28 Jan '13

28 Jan '13

From: Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:47 PM To: "release-team(a)lists.kbase.us<mailto:[email protected]>" <release-team(a)lists.kbase.us<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Adam Arkin <aparkin(a)lbl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>>, Michael Leuze <leuzemr(a)ornl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>>, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [Release-team] Need downloadable KBase product for Windows So it is politically important to get something out in Feb that works on Windows. We told them that IRIS works on any platform, and doesn't require you to download any software, but now we need to check that IRIS actually does run in some ancient version of IE on Windows XP or Windows 7. Do any of you have access to an old PC? (Miriam, I know you switched to Mac fairly recently--you don't happen to have an old PC lying around, do you?) Susan said she can try out IRIS on her Windows machine, but we also need to be able to test it, particularly if she has problems. (I'm a little worried about some of the javascript stuff that we're talking about adding.) Maybe someone can run old Windows VMs to test this stuff? Nomi Harris Project Manager, KBase I have an old XP box at home with an old IE. I had install Chrome to test the GLAMM lab. Haven't tried the other labs. My old work Windows box is off the ORNL network but I can take it home and do more testing. Miriam

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Re: [Release-team] new worksheet for this weeks release
by Thomas Brettin 28 Jan '13

28 Jan '13

Dan, if it is possible, I would like to try to do another this week. I'll be onsite around 8:30ish. I'll stop by. If I had to choose between running the new modules through the deploy-qc-redeploy-reqc vs pushing modules from last week to production, I'd choose running new modules so as to be better prepared for the Feb 4 major release. The main question for this morning is can we do both, or do we have to choose. Tom On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Dan Olson <dolson(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > We're not done with last weeks release. According to the schedule in the punch list > in google docs, we aren't scheduled to be done until Wednesday. > > Did this get discussed last week? Are we starting a new release Monday? > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Thomas Brettin" <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> >> To: release-team(a)lists.kbase.us >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:19:09 PM >> Subject: [Release-team] new worksheet for this weeks release >> >> I created a new worksheet as agreed during our call on Friday. It's >> the "Jan 28 2013 Minor" tab. Take a look. We can add more as needed. >> >> Tom >> >> >> Thomas Brettin >> 865-603-7760 (cell) >> brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Release-team mailing list >> Release-team(a)lists.kbase.us >> https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/release-team >> Thomas Brettin 865-603-7760 (cell) brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov

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Re: [Release-team] new worksheet for this weeks release
by Dan Olson 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

We're not done with last weeks release. According to the schedule in the punch list in google docs, we aren't scheduled to be done until Wednesday. Did this get discussed last week? Are we starting a new release Monday? ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Brettin" <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> > To: release-team(a)lists.kbase.us > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:19:09 PM > Subject: [Release-team] new worksheet for this weeks release > > I created a new worksheet as agreed during our call on Friday. It's > the "Jan 28 2013 Minor" tab. Take a look. We can add more as needed. > > Tom > > > Thomas Brettin > 865-603-7760 (cell) > brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > Release-team mailing list > Release-team(a)lists.kbase.us > https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/release-team >

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Re: [Release-team] Need downloadable KBase product for Windows
by Adam Arkin 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

The problem is that it is not windows-- it is THEIR version of corporate windows with NOTHING else installed. We can't use Cygwin or anything like it. We can't specify using Firefox. The web provides a way for them to use remote resources... if IRIS worked in Explorer 9 that would be awesome but I think we need to push back a little on this unless this is easy to do. I think if we get the web interface running -- meaning the search first and narrative thereafter we will be in good stead. I think if we can demo things on our computers over a 4G network we will be fine with them. For other Window's users we need to discuss the configuration requirements. Adam On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > On Jan 27, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > > Last I heard IRIS didn't run on IE. > > creating a windows equivalent to the dmg requires that we build the kbase > runtime on windows. > > > If that's what it takes, then someone (not me) needs to do this. We can't > just ignore Windows (much as I know we'd all like to), given that our > sponsors (DOE) use it. > > So, who can build the KBase runtime on Windows? > > Nomi > > > > On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > > Hi all, > > During the meeting with our DOE program managers on Friday, they raised > the issue that currently our only downloadable KBase product is the Mac > dmg. People who work at DOE are forced to use Windows. Not only that--they > are forced to use very old versions of Windows (and therefore very old > versions of applications--which they are not allowed to update without > permission). They are currently on Windows XP but will soon be upgrading to > Windows 7. I forget which version of IE they said they had. A very old one, > anyway. > > So it is politically important to get something out in Feb that works on > Windows. We told them that IRIS works on any platform, and doesn't require > you to download any software, but now we need to check that IRIS actually > does run in some ancient version of IE on Windows XP or Windows 7. Do any > of you have access to an old PC? (Miriam, I know you switched to Mac fairly > recently--you don't happen to have an old PC lying around, do you?) Susan > said she can try out IRIS on her Windows machine, but we also need to be > able to test it, particularly if she has problems. (I'm a little worried > about some of the javascript stuff that we're talking about adding.) Maybe > someone can run old Windows VMs to test this stuff? > > It would also be good to make a Linux image available, but I think Windows > is actually more important. Lots of people (even scientists) still use > Windows. Linux users are generally power-users who are used to not being > able to download plug-and-play software. > > If it's not a huge hassle, it would be good if we could offer the > downloadable tarball, which theoretically should work on any OS, right? Was > there some reason to think it might not work on Windows, or were we just > reluctant to state that it would work fi we couldn't test it? > > Nomi Harris > Project Manager, KBase > > > -- Adam Paul Arkin Dean A. Richard Newton Memorial Chair ------------------------------------- Director, Physical Biosciences Division E.O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Professor, Department of Bioengineering University of California Berkeley, CA, 94720 CEO/CSO, DOE Systems Biology Knowledgebase, http://kbase.us Director, Berkeley Synthetic Biology Institute, http://synbio.berkeley.edu PI and Co-Director, Virtual Institute of Microbial Stress and Survival, http://vimss.lbl.gov Investigator, Energy Biosciences Institute, http://energybiosciencesinstitute.org Office: 512C Energy Biosciences Building (Berkeley Campus) Mailing address: E.O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road, MS 955-512L Berkeley, CA 94720 Contact: W: http://genomics.lbl.gov V: 510-495-2366 C: 510-206-1389 F: 510-486-6219 Assistant: Gwyneth A. Terry V: 510-495-2116 E: GATerry(a)lbl.gov -------------------------------------

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Re: [Release-team] Need downloadable KBase product for Windows
by Thomas Brettin 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

How about Jason B. I noticed he is a windows power user. On Jan 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > On Jan 27, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > >> Last I heard IRIS didn't run on IE. >> >> creating a windows equivalent to the dmg requires that we build the kbase runtime on windows. > > If that's what it takes, then someone (not me) needs to do this. We can't just ignore Windows (much as I know we'd all like to), given that our sponsors (DOE) use it. > > So, who can build the KBase runtime on Windows? > > Nomi > >> >> >> On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> During the meeting with our DOE program managers on Friday, they raised the issue that currently our only downloadable KBase product is the Mac dmg. People who work at DOE are forced to use Windows. Not only that--they are forced to use very old versions of Windows (and therefore very old versions of applications--which they are not allowed to update without permission). They are currently on Windows XP but will soon be upgrading to Windows 7. I forget which version of IE they said they had. A very old one, anyway. >>> >>> So it is politically important to get something out in Feb that works on Windows. We told them that IRIS works on any platform, and doesn't require you to download any software, but now we need to check that IRIS actually does run in some ancient version of IE on Windows XP or Windows 7. Do any of you have access to an old PC? (Miriam, I know you switched to Mac fairly recently--you don't happen to have an old PC lying around, do you?) Susan said she can try out IRIS on her Windows machine, but we also need to be able to test it, particularly if she has problems. (I'm a little worried about some of the javascript stuff that we're talking about adding.) Maybe someone can run old Windows VMs to test this stuff? >>> >>> It would also be good to make a Linux image available, but I think Windows is actually more important. Lots of people (even scientists) still use Windows. Linux users are generally power-users who are used to not being able to download plug-and-play software. >>> >>> If it's not a huge hassle, it would be good if we could offer the downloadable tarball, which theoretically should work on any OS, right? Was there some reason to think it might not work on Windows, or were we just reluctant to state that it would work fi we couldn't test it? >>> >>> Nomi Harris >>> Project Manager, KBase > Thomas Brettin 865-603-7760 (cell) brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov

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Re: [Release-team] Need downloadable KBase product for Windows
by Adam Arkin 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

Yeah-- I find this a hard pill to swallow. I think the leadership can see us demo our own system on our own machines... they are not going to be real users of the system in general. The important thing is to be able to demo the system off a 4G cell network. :) Not that I don't think Windows might one day be an important target... and not that I think we don't need to get most things working across platform to SOME degree. But this seems lower priority than other things. I don't see Todd or Sharlene really using IRIS. I will say- for them- the thing I worry about most is putting a good foot forward on search. Adam On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > Last I heard IRIS didn't run on IE. > > creating a windows equivalent to the dmg requires that we build the kbase > runtime on windows. > > > > > On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > > Hi all, > > During the meeting with our DOE program managers on Friday, they raised > the issue that currently our only downloadable KBase product is the Mac > dmg. People who work at DOE are forced to use Windows. Not only that--they > are forced to use very old versions of Windows (and therefore very old > versions of applications--which they are not allowed to update without > permission). They are currently on Windows XP but will soon be upgrading to > Windows 7. I forget which version of IE they said they had. A very old one, > anyway. > > So it is politically important to get something out in Feb that works on > Windows. We told them that IRIS works on any platform, and doesn't require > you to download any software, but now we need to check that IRIS actually > does run in some ancient version of IE on Windows XP or Windows 7. Do any > of you have access to an old PC? (Miriam, I know you switched to Mac fairly > recently--you don't happen to have an old PC lying around, do you?) Susan > said she can try out IRIS on her Windows machine, but we also need to be > able to test it, particularly if she has problems. (I'm a little worried > about some of the javascript stuff that we're talking about adding.) Maybe > someone can run old Windows VMs to test this stuff? > > It would also be good to make a Linux image available, but I think Windows > is actually more important. Lots of people (even scientists) still use > Windows. Linux users are generally power-users who are used to not being > able to download plug-and-play software. > > If it's not a huge hassle, it would be good if we could offer the > downloadable tarball, which theoretically should work on any OS, right? Was > there some reason to think it might not work on Windows, or were we just > reluctant to state that it would work fi we couldn't test it? > > Nomi Harris > Project Manager, KBase > > _______________________________________________ > Release-team mailing list > Release-team(a)lists.kbase.us > https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/release-team > > > Thomas Brettin > 865-603-7760 (cell) > brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov > > > > -- Adam Paul Arkin Dean A. Richard Newton Memorial Chair ------------------------------------- Director, Physical Biosciences Division E.O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Professor, Department of Bioengineering University of California Berkeley, CA, 94720 CEO/CSO, DOE Systems Biology Knowledgebase, http://kbase.us Director, Berkeley Synthetic Biology Institute, http://synbio.berkeley.edu PI and Co-Director, Virtual Institute of Microbial Stress and Survival, http://vimss.lbl.gov Investigator, Energy Biosciences Institute, http://energybiosciencesinstitute.org Office: 512C Energy Biosciences Building (Berkeley Campus) Mailing address: E.O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road, MS 955-512L Berkeley, CA 94720 Contact: W: http://genomics.lbl.gov V: 510-495-2366 C: 510-206-1389 F: 510-486-6219 Assistant: Gwyneth A. Terry V: 510-495-2116 E: GATerry(a)lbl.gov -------------------------------------

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Re: [Release-team] Need downloadable KBase product for Windows
by Nomi Harris 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

On Jan 27, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Thomas Brettin <brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > Last I heard IRIS didn't run on IE. > > creating a windows equivalent to the dmg requires that we build the kbase runtime on windows. If that's what it takes, then someone (not me) needs to do this. We can't just ignore Windows (much as I know we'd all like to), given that our sponsors (DOE) use it. So, who can build the KBase runtime on Windows? Nomi > > > On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> During the meeting with our DOE program managers on Friday, they raised the issue that currently our only downloadable KBase product is the Mac dmg. People who work at DOE are forced to use Windows. Not only that--they are forced to use very old versions of Windows (and therefore very old versions of applications--which they are not allowed to update without permission). They are currently on Windows XP but will soon be upgrading to Windows 7. I forget which version of IE they said they had. A very old one, anyway. >> >> So it is politically important to get something out in Feb that works on Windows. We told them that IRIS works on any platform, and doesn't require you to download any software, but now we need to check that IRIS actually does run in some ancient version of IE on Windows XP or Windows 7. Do any of you have access to an old PC? (Miriam, I know you switched to Mac fairly recently--you don't happen to have an old PC lying around, do you?) Susan said she can try out IRIS on her Windows machine, but we also need to be able to test it, particularly if she has problems. (I'm a little worried about some of the javascript stuff that we're talking about adding.) Maybe someone can run old Windows VMs to test this stuff? >> >> It would also be good to make a Linux image available, but I think Windows is actually more important. Lots of people (even scientists) still use Windows. Linux users are generally power-users who are used to not being able to download plug-and-play software. >> >> If it's not a huge hassle, it would be good if we could offer the downloadable tarball, which theoretically should work on any OS, right? Was there some reason to think it might not work on Windows, or were we just reluctant to state that it would work fi we couldn't test it? >> >> Nomi Harris >> Project Manager, KBase

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Re: [Release-team] Need downloadable KBase product for Windows
by Thomas Brettin 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

Last I heard IRIS didn't run on IE. creating a windows equivalent to the dmg requires that we build the kbase runtime on windows. On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Nomi Harris <nlharris(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > Hi all, > > During the meeting with our DOE program managers on Friday, they raised the issue that currently our only downloadable KBase product is the Mac dmg. People who work at DOE are forced to use Windows. Not only that--they are forced to use very old versions of Windows (and therefore very old versions of applications--which they are not allowed to update without permission). They are currently on Windows XP but will soon be upgrading to Windows 7. I forget which version of IE they said they had. A very old one, anyway. > > So it is politically important to get something out in Feb that works on Windows. We told them that IRIS works on any platform, and doesn't require you to download any software, but now we need to check that IRIS actually does run in some ancient version of IE on Windows XP or Windows 7. Do any of you have access to an old PC? (Miriam, I know you switched to Mac fairly recently--you don't happen to have an old PC lying around, do you?) Susan said she can try out IRIS on her Windows machine, but we also need to be able to test it, particularly if she has problems. (I'm a little worried about some of the javascript stuff that we're talking about adding.) Maybe someone can run old Windows VMs to test this stuff? > > It would also be good to make a Linux image available, but I think Windows is actually more important. Lots of people (even scientists) still use Windows. Linux users are generally power-users who are used to not being able to download plug-and-play software. > > If it's not a huge hassle, it would be good if we could offer the downloadable tarball, which theoretically should work on any OS, right? Was there some reason to think it might not work on Windows, or were we just reluctant to state that it would work fi we couldn't test it? > > Nomi Harris > Project Manager, KBase > > _______________________________________________ > Release-team mailing list > Release-team(a)lists.kbase.us > https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/release-team Thomas Brettin 865-603-7760 (cell) brettin(a)mcs.anl.gov

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Need downloadable KBase product for Windows
by Nomi Harris 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

Hi all, During the meeting with our DOE program managers on Friday, they raised the issue that currently our only downloadable KBase product is the Mac dmg. People who work at DOE are forced to use Windows. Not only that--they are forced to use very old versions of Windows (and therefore very old versions of applications--which they are not allowed to update without permission). They are currently on Windows XP but will soon be upgrading to Windows 7. I forget which version of IE they said they had. A very old one, anyway. So it is politically important to get something out in Feb that works on Windows. We told them that IRIS works on any platform, and doesn't require you to download any software, but now we need to check that IRIS actually does run in some ancient version of IE on Windows XP or Windows 7. Do any of you have access to an old PC? (Miriam, I know you switched to Mac fairly recently--you don't happen to have an old PC lying around, do you?) Susan said she can try out IRIS on her Windows machine, but we also need to be able to test it, particularly if she has problems. (I'm a little worried about some of the javascript stuff that we're talking about adding.) Maybe someone can run old Windows VMs to test this stuff? It would also be good to make a Linux image available, but I think Windows is actually more important. Lots of people (even scientists) still use Windows. Linux users are generally power-users who are used to not being able to download plug-and-play software. If it's not a huge hassle, it would be good if we could offer the downloadable tarball, which theoretically should work on any OS, right? Was there some reason to think it might not work on Windows, or were we just reluctant to state that it would work fi we couldn't test it? Nomi Harris Project Manager, KBase

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