It seems only obvious that remote request completion only makes sense
for large messages where individual completion makes sense. I can
think of numerous contexts where it does, especially in the limit of
not being able to register an infinity of pages.
Jeff
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the argument against was that can be hard to get fine-grain,
> per-operation remote completion, and harder still to do it efficiently. So,
> we could end up with an interface that builds a false expectation where
> users expect overlap that many implementations can't provide.
>
> ~Jim.
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Barrett didn't have a good argument against these functions except
>> argument count, as I recall. There was some debate as to whether nonblocking
>> flush was better, albeit in an apples-to-oranges way.
>>
>> I think most people are just frustrated with the grossness of the corner
>> we are painted into with RMA API. Pirate RMA is the natural consequence of
>> past decisions. The other solution to the application's problem is
>> overlapping windows, which would be only mildly awful if not for our
>> inability to support just one memory model.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Nov 6, 2014, at 6:47 AM, "Underwood, Keith D"
>> > <keith.d.underwood(a)intel.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > So, what, you're telling me I have to start attending again to give you
>> > an appropriate amount of difficulty for some of these proposals?
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: mpiwg-rma [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> >> Behalf Of Jeff Hammond
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:39 PM
>> >> To: MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group
>> >> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
>> >>
>> >> Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number)
>> >> needs to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again,
>> >> Barrett is gone :-
>> >> )
>> >>
>> >> Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That
>> >> looks
>> >> promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
>> >>
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there
>> >>> is a list
>> >> of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or retire
>> >> the open
>> >> ones.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bill
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I would like to discuss
>> >>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
>> >>>> closely related
>> >>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
>> >>>> for the appropriate allocation of time?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jeff
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Jeff Hammond
>> >>>> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
>> >>>> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> mpiwg-rma mailing list
>> >>>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org
>> >>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-rma
>> >>>
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I think the argument against was that can be hard to get fine-grain,
per-operation remote completion, and harder still to do it efficiently.
So, we could end up with an interface that builds a false expectation where
users expect overlap that many implementations can't provide.
~Jim.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Barrett didn't have a good argument against these functions except
> argument count, as I recall. There was some debate as to whether
> nonblocking flush was better, albeit in an apples-to-oranges way.
>
> I think most people are just frustrated with the grossness of the corner
> we are painted into with RMA API. Pirate RMA is the natural consequence of
> past decisions. The other solution to the application's problem is
> overlapping windows, which would be only mildly awful if not for our
> inability to support just one memory model.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 6, 2014, at 6:47 AM, "Underwood, Keith D" <
> keith.d.underwood(a)intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, what, you're telling me I have to start attending again to give you
> an appropriate amount of difficulty for some of these proposals?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mpiwg-rma [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >> Behalf Of Jeff Hammond
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:39 PM
> >> To: MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group
> >> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
> >>
> >> Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number)
> >> needs to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again,
> Barrett is gone :-
> >> )
> >>
> >> Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That
> looks
> >> promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there
> is a list
> >> of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or retire
> the open
> >> ones.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to discuss
> >>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
> >>>> closely related
> >>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
> >>>> for the appropriate allocation of time?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jeff Hammond
> >>>> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
> >>>> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> mpiwg-rma mailing list
> >>>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org
> >>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-rma
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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Just what I suggested - it needs a restart that cleanly separates the issues. That is on my todo list, but there’s no possibility that I can get to that before SC. I will try to have something for discussion at the December meeting.
Bill
On Nov 6, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> wrote:
> #456: What would it move forward?
>
> Rolf
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "William Gropp" <wgropp(a)illinois.edu>
>> To: "MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group" <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 12:08:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
>>
>> I’ve added #456, with my recommendation that we start over on that issue -
>> we’ve discussed this ticket a lot, and I don’t think more discussion in the
>> context of this ticket will move it forward.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Can we add
>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/456
>>> to the agenda?
>>>
>>> Rolf
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jeff Hammond" <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
>>>> To: "MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group"
>>>> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 6:38:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
>>>>
>>>> Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number)
>>>> needs
>>>> to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again, Barrett is gone
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That looks
>>>> promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there is a
>>>>> list of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or
>>>>> retire
>>>>> the open ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to discuss
>>>>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
>>>>>> closely related
>>>>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
>>>>>> for the appropriate allocation of time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jeff Hammond
>>>>>> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
>>>>>> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> mpiwg-rma mailing list
>>>>>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org
>>>>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-rma
>>>>>
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>>>
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#456: What would it move forward?
Rolf
----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Gropp" <wgropp(a)illinois.edu>
> To: "MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group" <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 12:08:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
>
> I’ve added #456, with my recommendation that we start over on that issue -
> we’ve discussed this ticket a lot, and I don’t think more discussion in the
> context of this ticket will move it forward.
>
> Bill
>
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> wrote:
>
> > Can we add
> > https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/456
> > to the agenda?
> >
> > Rolf
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jeff Hammond" <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
> >> To: "MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group"
> >> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 6:38:50 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
> >>
> >> Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number)
> >> needs
> >> to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again, Barrett is gone
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That looks
> >> promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there is a
> >>> list of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or
> >>> retire
> >>> the open ones.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to discuss
> >>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
> >>>> closely related
> >>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
> >>>> for the appropriate allocation of time?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jeff Hammond
> >>>> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
> >>>> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> mpiwg-rma mailing list
> >>>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org
> >>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-rma
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> > --
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> > Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner
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University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832
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Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307)
Barrett didn't have a good argument against these functions except argument count, as I recall. There was some debate as to whether nonblocking flush was better, albeit in an apples-to-oranges way.
I think most people are just frustrated with the grossness of the corner we are painted into with RMA API. Pirate RMA is the natural consequence of past decisions. The other solution to the application's problem is overlapping windows, which would be only mildly awful if not for our inability to support just one memory model.
Jeff
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 6:47 AM, "Underwood, Keith D" <keith.d.underwood(a)intel.com> wrote:
>
> So, what, you're telling me I have to start attending again to give you an appropriate amount of difficulty for some of these proposals?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mpiwg-rma [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Jeff Hammond
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:39 PM
>> To: MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group
>> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
>>
>> Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number)
>> needs to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again, Barrett is gone :-
>> )
>>
>> Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That looks
>> promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there is a list
>> of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or retire the open
>> ones.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to discuss
>>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
>>>> closely related
>>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
>>>>
>>>> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
>>>> for the appropriate allocation of time?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeff Hammond
>>>> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
>>>> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> mpiwg-rma mailing list
>>>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org
>>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-rma
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-rma
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So, what, you're telling me I have to start attending again to give you an appropriate amount of difficulty for some of these proposals?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpiwg-rma [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Hammond
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:39 PM
> To: MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group
> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
>
> Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number)
> needs to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again, Barrett is gone :-
> )
>
> Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That looks
> promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
> >
> > The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there is a list
> of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or retire the open
> ones.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to discuss
> >> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
> >> closely related
> >> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
> >>
> >> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
> >> for the appropriate allocation of time?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeff Hammond
> >> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
> >> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> mpiwg-rma mailing list
> >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org
> >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-rma
> >
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I’ve added #456, with my recommendation that we start over on that issue - we’ve discussed this ticket a lot, and I don’t think more discussion in the context of this ticket will move it forward.
Bill
On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner(a)hlrs.de> wrote:
> Can we add
> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/456
> to the agenda?
>
> Rolf
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeff Hammond" <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
>> To: "MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group" <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 6:38:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
>>
>> Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number) needs
>> to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again, Barrett is gone
>> :-)
>>
>> Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That looks
>> promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there is a
>>> list of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or retire
>>> the open ones.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to discuss
>>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
>>>> closely related
>>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
>>>>
>>>> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
>>>> for the appropriate allocation of time?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeff Hammond
>>>> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
>>>> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> mpiwg-rma mailing list
>>>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org
>>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-rma
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
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Thanks, Jeff. I can create a ticket, though that isn’t necessary. Instead, I’ve added it to the agenda page.
Bill
On Nov 4, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number) needs to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again, Barrett is gone :-)
>
> Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That looks promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
>>
>> The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there is a list of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or retire the open ones.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to discuss
>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
>>> closely related
>>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
>>>
>>> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
>>> for the appropriate allocation of time?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeff Hammond
>>> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
>>> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
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Can we add
https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/456
to the agenda?
Rolf
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Hammond" <jeff.science(a)gmail.com>
> To: "MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group" <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 6:38:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] RMA WG discussion 12/2014
>
> Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number) needs
> to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again, Barrett is gone
> :-)
>
> Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That looks
> promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
> >
> > The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there is a
> > list of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or retire
> > the open ones.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to discuss
> >> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
> >> closely related
> >> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
> >>
> >> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
> >> for the appropriate allocation of time?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeff Hammond
> >> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
> >> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
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High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone ++49(0)711/685-65530
University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 / 685-65832
Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . . www.hlrs.de/people/rabenseifner
Nobelstr. 19, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany . . . . (Office: Room 1.307)
Pirate RMA (remote request completion - cannot remember ticket number) needs to be retired if WG is still not in favor. But then again, Barrett is gone :-)
Nonblocking RMA epochs in your SC14 paper should be discussed. That looks promising. Can you create a ticket for it?
Jeff
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote:
>
> The wiki page already has 397 and I added 460. Note also that there is a list of open tickets on that page; we should try to either adopt or retire the open ones.
>
> Bill
>
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.science(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to discuss
>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/397 and the
>> closely related
>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/460 in San Jose.
>>
>> Can we collect the other tickets of interest to people and ask Martin
>> for the appropriate allocation of time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Hammond
>> jeff.science(a)gmail.com
>> http://jeffhammond.github.io/
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpiwg-rma
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