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Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA-WG Bi-Weekly Meeting
by Joseph Schuchart 28 Sep '21

28 Sep '21

Quick reminder that the RMA WG is meeting today at 12 central. See you there, Joseph On 9/13/21 7:31 PM, schuchart(a)icl.utk.edu wrote: > > Sorry for the late invite. I hope Zoom works for everyone (and I > didn't mess up the setup) :) > > > MPI RMA-WG Bi-Weekly Meeting > > /When/ > Tue Sep 14, 2021 1pm – 2pm Eastern Time - New York > /Where/ > https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/99393831574(map > <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftennessee.zoom.us%2Fj%2F99393831…>) > > /Who/ > > • > schuchart(a)icl.utk.edu- organizer > > Hi there, > > Joseph Konstantin Schuchart is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. > > Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: > https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/99393831574 > <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftennessee.zoom.us%2Fj%2F99393831…> > Password: 469555 > > Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll): +16468769923,99393831574# or > +13017158592,99393831574# > > Or Telephone: Dial: +1 646 876 9923 (US Toll) +1 301 715 8592 (US > Toll) +1 312 626 6799 (US Toll) +1 669 900 6833 (US Toll) +1 253 215 > 8782 (US Toll) +1 346 248 7799 (US Toll) Meeting ID: 993 9383 1574 > International numbers available: https://tennessee.zoom.us/u/aPxIWlo5F > <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftennessee.zoom.us%2Fu%2FaPxIWlo5…> >

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MPI RMA-WG Bi-Weekly Meeting
by schuchart＠icl.utk.edu 13 Sep '21

13 Sep '21

Sorry for the late invite. I hope Zoom works for everyone (and I didn't mess up the setup) :) Title: MPI RMA-WG Bi-Weekly Meeting Hi there, Joseph Konstantin Schuchart is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/99393831574 Password: 469555 Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll): +16468769923,99393831574# or +13017158592,99393831574# Or Telephone: Dial: +1 646 876 9923 (US Toll) +1 301 715 8592 (US Toll) +1 312 626 6799 (US Toll) +1 669 900 6833 (US Toll) +1 253 215 8782 (US Toll) +1 346 248 7799 (US Toll) Meeting ID: 993 9383 1574 International numbers available: https://tennessee.zoom.us/u/aPxIWlo5F When: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1pm – 2pm Eastern Time - New York Where: https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/99393831574 Who: * schuchart(a)icl.utk.edu - organizer

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Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call
by Jim Dinan 07 Sep '21

07 Sep '21

Thanks, Joseph. Yes, I can make Tue 12-1pm US CT work. On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 11:13 AM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma < mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote: > From Jim's previous email, I take it that Tuesdays 12-1CT would work > for him except for next week (due to the OpenSHMEM workshop). Is that > correct Jim? I suggest we take that slot since that seems to work for > everyone except for Jeff (marked as 'maybe') > > Thanks > Joseph > > On 9/3/21 12:26 PM, William Gropp wrote: > > Thanks, Joseph. > > > > I suggest biweekly. So far, the best time appears to be Mon 10-11 CT, > > though three of us listed it as “if necessary” (shows as yellow). I’m > > one of those, so I can make that work, but will need a week to adjust > > my calendar. Second best are Mon 11-12CT and Tue 12-1CT, where at > > least one person can’t make that time. > > > > The first Monday on which I could start is 9/20. > > > > Bill > > > > William Gropp > > Director, NCSA > > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > > IEEE-CS President-Elect > > > > > > > > > >> On Sep 2, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma > >> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for filling in the poll everyone. The poll was meant for > >> generic dates but I didn't see a way to make that happen in doodle. I > >> wasn't clear on that, sorry. If that changes the entries in the poll > >> please just add another entry, I will filter them out (I don't think > >> doodle allows you to change your entry). > >> > >> I don't have a strong opinion on whether we should meet weekly or > >> biweekly. We probably have enough topics to discuss for a weekly > >> meeting but people have other things to do so maybe we should start > >> biweekly and see how far that gets us. Let me know if you think > >> otherwise :) > >> > >> Cheers > >> Joseph > >> > >> > >> On 9/2/21 10:30 AM, Thakur, Rajeev via mpiwg-rma wrote: > >>> > >>> And should it be weekly or biweekly. A week goes by pretty quickly. > >>> > >>> *From: *mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Jim > >>> Dinan via mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> *Reply-To: *MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group > >>> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> *Date: *Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 9:07 AM > >>> *To: *MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group > >>> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> *Cc: *Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> *Subject: *Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call > >>> > >>> Thanks for creating the poll. I will be unavailable Sept 14-16 > >>> because of the OpenSHMEM workshop, but otherwise have time available > >>> on these days. Would you like a response for these specific dates, > >>> or for a recurring weekly meeting on that day of the week? > >>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 6:02 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma > >>> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Judging from the mails so far, there are multiple slots that might > >>> work > >>> for people. Not everyone has responded yet though. To simplify the > >>> process I have set up a doodle poll: > >>> > >>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ…> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ…> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> It contains all the slots within the timezone constraints > >>> mentioned by > >>> Bill plus one hour later, minus the MPI Forum meeting slot on > >>> Wednesdays. Please put in your availability so we can find a slot > >>> starting the week after the EuroMPI/MPI Forum next week. If some > >>> slots > >>> only work bi-weekly, please mention that in a comment on the poll. > In > >>> the meantime, we can have a first (informal) meeting Tuesday at > 11-12 > >>> CET (seems to suit at least some) at > >>> > >>> https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679 > >>> <https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679> > >>> <https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679 > >>> <https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679>> > >>> > >>> to start a discussion on the items most important for 4.1. It's on > >>> short > >>> notice so whoever wants to join is welcome, I will start working > >>> on the > >>> rank terminology in the chapter otherwise ^^ > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Joseph > >>> > >>> On 8/28/21 3:08 PM, William Gropp wrote: > >>> > I have no objections to someone else taking the lead. We did > >>> try to > >>> > find a good time for a meeting, but I don’t think that we > >>> succeeded, > >>> > and I didn’t restart the search in August, and agreeing on a time > >>> > remains the first thing to resolve. > >>> > > >>> > Just to get this restarted, would 10-11 US Central time on Tuesday > >>> > work? Keep in mind these constraints - for the US West coast, we > >>> try > >>> > to start no earlier than 8PT/10CT. For Europe, we try to end by > >>> 6 CET, > >>> > which is noon US CT. > >>> > > >>> > Let me know if that time works. If it doesn’t suggest something > >>> in the > >>> > range above. > >>> > > >>> > Bill > >>> > > >>> > William Gropp > >>> > Director, NCSA > >>> > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > >>> > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > >>> > IEEE-CS President-Elect > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >> On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> > >>> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> I have not seen such an announcement. I think this WG is in > >>> need of > >>> >> someone to take the lead on organizing meetings and topics. If > you > >>> >> have the bandwidth to get us moving, I think the help would be > >>> very > >>> >> much appreciated. @William Gropp <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> What do > >>> >> you think? > >>> >> > >>> >> Cheers, > >>> >> ~Jim. > >>> >> > >>> >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:01 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma > >>> >> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> >> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi Bill, all, > >>> >> > >>> >> Has there been a decision on when to reconvene the RMA > working > >>> >> group? I > >>> >> recently changed institutes and might have missed emails > >>> sent to > >>> >> my old > >>> >> address... > >>> >> > >>> >> Thanks, > >>> >> Joseph > >>> >> > >>> >> On 6/15/21 11:10 AM, William Gropp via mpiwg-rma wrote: > >>> >> > Hi everyone, > >>> >> > > >>> >> > It's been a long time since we’ve had an RMA call, and > there > >>> >> are many > >>> >> > open topics that we need to discuss. Specifically, Min > >>> Si has > >>> >> raised > >>> >> > the issue of generalized RMA atomics, in this ticket and > PR: > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Ticket: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> > > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1… > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> > > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1… > >>>> > >>> >> > > >>> PR: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> > > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9… > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> > > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9… > >>>> > >>> >> > > >>> >> > I’d like to schedule at least one RMA call, and allow for a > >>> >> regular set > >>> >> > of calls until we’ve handled the open RMA issues. So my > >>> first > >>> >> questions > >>> >> > are (a) are you interested in participating and if so (b) > >>> would > >>> >> sometime > >>> >> > mid-morning US (9-11 CDT) work? If so, the next step will > >>> be a > >>> >> doodle > >>> >> > poll to find a specific regular time. Please let my > >>> assistant, > >>> >> Stacy > >>> >> > Walker cc’ed above, know if you want to participate. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Bill > >>> >> > > >>> >> > William Gropp > >>> >> > Director, NCSA > >>> >> > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > >>> >> > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > >>> >> > IEEE-CS President-Elect > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > >>> >> > mpiwg-rma mailing list > >>> >> >mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> > >>> >> > >>> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> > > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi… > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> mpiwg-rma mailing list > >>> >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> > >>> >> > >>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> > > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi… > >>> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> mpiwg-rma mailing list > >>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> > > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >>> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> mpiwg-rma mailing list > >>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mpiwg-rma mailing list > >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> > >> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-rma mailing list > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma >

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Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call
by Joseph Schuchart 06 Sep '21

06 Sep '21

From Jim's previous email, I take it that Tuesdays 12-1CT would work for him except for next week (due to the OpenSHMEM workshop). Is that correct Jim? I suggest we take that slot since that seems to work for everyone except for Jeff (marked as 'maybe') Thanks Joseph On 9/3/21 12:26 PM, William Gropp wrote: > Thanks, Joseph. > > I suggest biweekly. So far, the best time appears to be Mon 10-11 CT, > though three of us listed it as “if necessary” (shows as yellow). I’m > one of those, so I can make that work, but will need a week to adjust > my calendar. Second best are Mon 11-12CT and Tue 12-1CT, where at > least one person can’t make that time. > > The first Monday on which I could start is 9/20. > > Bill > > William Gropp > Director, NCSA > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > IEEE-CS President-Elect > > > > >> On Sep 2, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma >> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Thanks for filling in the poll everyone. The poll was meant for >> generic dates but I didn't see a way to make that happen in doodle. I >> wasn't clear on that, sorry. If that changes the entries in the poll >> please just add another entry, I will filter them out (I don't think >> doodle allows you to change your entry). >> >> I don't have a strong opinion on whether we should meet weekly or >> biweekly. We probably have enough topics to discuss for a weekly >> meeting but people have other things to do so maybe we should start >> biweekly and see how far that gets us. Let me know if you think >> otherwise :) >> >> Cheers >> Joseph >> >> >> On 9/2/21 10:30 AM, Thakur, Rajeev via mpiwg-rma wrote: >>> >>> And should it be weekly or biweekly. A week goes by pretty quickly. >>> >>> *From: *mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Jim >>> Dinan via mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Reply-To: *MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group >>> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Date: *Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 9:07 AM >>> *To: *MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group >>> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Cc: *Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call >>> >>> Thanks for creating the poll. I will be unavailable Sept 14-16 >>> because of the OpenSHMEM workshop, but otherwise have time available >>> on these days. Would you like a response for these specific dates, >>> or for a recurring weekly meeting on that day of the week? >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 6:02 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma >>> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>> >>> Judging from the mails so far, there are multiple slots that might >>> work >>> for people. Not everyone has responded yet though. To simplify the >>> process I have set up a doodle poll: >>> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ…> >>> > >>> >>> It contains all the slots within the timezone constraints >>> mentioned by >>> Bill plus one hour later, minus the MPI Forum meeting slot on >>> Wednesdays. Please put in your availability so we can find a slot >>> starting the week after the EuroMPI/MPI Forum next week. If some >>> slots >>> only work bi-weekly, please mention that in a comment on the poll. In >>> the meantime, we can have a first (informal) meeting Tuesday at 11-12 >>> CET (seems to suit at least some) at >>> >>> https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679 >>> <https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679> >>> <https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679 >>> <https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679>> >>> >>> to start a discussion on the items most important for 4.1. It's on >>> short >>> notice so whoever wants to join is welcome, I will start working >>> on the >>> rank terminology in the chapter otherwise ^^ >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Joseph >>> >>> On 8/28/21 3:08 PM, William Gropp wrote: >>> > I have no objections to someone else taking the lead. We did >>> try to >>> > find a good time for a meeting, but I don’t think that we >>> succeeded, >>> > and I didn’t restart the search in August, and agreeing on a time >>> > remains the first thing to resolve. >>> > >>> > Just to get this restarted, would 10-11 US Central time on Tuesday >>> > work? Keep in mind these constraints - for the US West coast, we >>> try >>> > to start no earlier than 8PT/10CT. For Europe, we try to end by >>> 6 CET, >>> > which is noon US CT. >>> > >>> > Let me know if that time works. If it doesn’t suggest something >>> in the >>> > range above. >>> > >>> > Bill >>> > >>> > William Gropp >>> > Director, NCSA >>> > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science >>> > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign >>> > IEEE-CS President-Elect >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I have not seen such an announcement. I think this WG is in >>> need of >>> >> someone to take the lead on organizing meetings and topics. If you >>> >> have the bandwidth to get us moving, I think the help would be >>> very >>> >> much appreciated. @William Gropp <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> What do >>> >> you think? >>> >> >>> >> Cheers, >>> >> ~Jim. >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:01 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma >>> >> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> >> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi Bill, all, >>> >> >>> >> Has there been a decision on when to reconvene the RMA working >>> >> group? I >>> >> recently changed institutes and might have missed emails >>> sent to >>> >> my old >>> >> address... >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> Joseph >>> >> >>> >> On 6/15/21 11:10 AM, William Gropp via mpiwg-rma wrote: >>> >> > Hi everyone, >>> >> > >>> >> > It's been a long time since we’ve had an RMA call, and there >>> >> are many >>> >> > open topics that we need to discuss. Specifically, Min >>> Si has >>> >> raised >>> >> > the issue of generalized RMA atomics, in this ticket and PR: >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Ticket:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> >>> > >>> >> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1…>>> >>> >> > >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> >>> > >>> >> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1…>>>> >>> >> > >>> PR:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pu… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> >>> > >>> >> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9…>>> >>> >> > >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> >>> > >>> >> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9…>>>> >>> >> > >>> >> > I’d like to schedule at least one RMA call, and allow for a >>> >> regular set >>> >> > of calls until we’ve handled the open RMA issues. So my >>> first >>> >> questions >>> >> > are (a) are you interested in participating and if so (b) >>> would >>> >> sometime >>> >> > mid-morning US (9-11 CDT) work? If so, the next step will >>> be a >>> >> doodle >>> >> > poll to find a specific regular time. Please let my >>> assistant, >>> >> Stacy >>> >> > Walker cc’ed above, know if you want to participate. >>> >> > >>> >> > Bill >>> >> > >>> >> > William Gropp >>> >> > Director, NCSA >>> >> > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science >>> >> > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign >>> >> > IEEE-CS President-Elect >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > mpiwg-rma mailing list >>> >> >mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> >> >>> >https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> >>> > >>> >> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi…>>> >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> mpiwg-rma mailing list >>> >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> >> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> >>> > >>> >> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi…>>> >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpiwg-rma mailing list >>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…> >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpiwg-rma mailing list >>> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-rma mailing list >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >> >

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Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call
by William Gropp 03 Sep '21

03 Sep '21

Thanks, Joseph. I suggest biweekly. So far, the best time appears to be Mon 10-11 CT, though three of us listed it as “if necessary” (shows as yellow). I’m one of those, so I can make that work, but will need a week to adjust my calendar. Second best are Mon 11-12CT and Tue 12-1CT, where at least one person can’t make that time. The first Monday on which I could start is 9/20. Bill William Gropp Director, NCSA Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign IEEE-CS President-Elect > On Sep 2, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote: > > Thanks for filling in the poll everyone. The poll was meant for generic dates but I didn't see a way to make that happen in doodle. I wasn't clear on that, sorry. If that changes the entries in the poll please just add another entry, I will filter them out (I don't think doodle allows you to change your entry). > > I don't have a strong opinion on whether we should meet weekly or biweekly. We probably have enough topics to discuss for a weekly meeting but people have other things to do so maybe we should start biweekly and see how far that gets us. Let me know if you think otherwise :) > > Cheers > Joseph > > > On 9/2/21 10:30 AM, Thakur, Rajeev via mpiwg-rma wrote: >> >> And should it be weekly or biweekly. A week goes by pretty quickly. >> >> *From: *mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> on behalf of Jim Dinan via mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >> *Reply-To: *MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >> *Date: *Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 9:07 AM >> *To: *MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> >> *Cc: *Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com> >> *Subject: *Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call >> >> Thanks for creating the poll. I will be unavailable Sept 14-16 because of the OpenSHMEM workshop, but otherwise have time available on these days. Would you like a response for these specific dates, or for a recurring weekly meeting on that day of the week? >> >> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 6:02 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Judging from the mails so far, there are multiple slots that might >> work >> for people. Not everyone has responded yet though. To simplify the >> process I have set up a doodle poll: >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ… <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59__;!!DZ… > >> >> It contains all the slots within the timezone constraints >> mentioned by >> Bill plus one hour later, minus the MPI Forum meeting slot on >> Wednesdays. Please put in your availability so we can find a slot >> starting the week after the EuroMPI/MPI Forum next week. If some >> slots >> only work bi-weekly, please mention that in a comment on the poll. In >> the meantime, we can have a first (informal) meeting Tuesday at 11-12 >> CET (seems to suit at least some) at >> >> https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679 >> <https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679> >> >> to start a discussion on the items most important for 4.1. It's on >> short >> notice so whoever wants to join is welcome, I will start working >> on the >> rank terminology in the chapter otherwise ^^ >> >> Thanks, >> Joseph >> >> On 8/28/21 3:08 PM, William Gropp wrote: >> > I have no objections to someone else taking the lead. We did >> try to >> > find a good time for a meeting, but I don’t think that we >> succeeded, >> > and I didn’t restart the search in August, and agreeing on a time >> > remains the first thing to resolve. >> > >> > Just to get this restarted, would 10-11 US Central time on Tuesday >> > work? Keep in mind these constraints - for the US West coast, we >> try >> > to start no earlier than 8PT/10CT. For Europe, we try to end by >> 6 CET, >> > which is noon US CT. >> > >> > Let me know if that time works. If it doesn’t suggest something >> in the >> > range above. >> > >> > Bill >> > >> > William Gropp >> > Director, NCSA >> > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science >> > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign >> > IEEE-CS President-Elect >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I have not seen such an announcement. I think this WG is in >> need of >> >> someone to take the lead on organizing meetings and topics. If you >> >> have the bandwidth to get us moving, I think the help would be >> very >> >> much appreciated. @William Gropp <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> What do >> >> you think? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> ~Jim. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:01 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma >> >> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Bill, all, >> >> >> >> Has there been a decision on when to reconvene the RMA working >> >> group? I >> >> recently changed institutes and might have missed emails >> sent to >> >> my old >> >> address... >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joseph >> >> >> >> On 6/15/21 11:10 AM, William Gropp via mpiwg-rma wrote: >> >> > Hi everyone, >> >> > >> >> > It's been a long time since we’ve had an RMA call, and there >> >> are many >> >> > open topics that we need to discuss. Specifically, Min Si has >> >> raised >> >> > the issue of generalized RMA atomics, in this ticket and PR: >> >> > >> >> > Ticket:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/… <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >> >> >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1…>> >> >> > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >> >> >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1…>>> >> >> > PR:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pu… <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >> >> >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9…>> >> >> > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >> >> >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9…>>> >> >> > >> >> > I’d like to schedule at least one RMA call, and allow for a >> >> regular set >> >> > of calls until we’ve handled the open RMA issues. So my first >> >> questions >> >> > are (a) are you interested in participating and if so (b) >> would >> >> sometime >> >> > mid-morning US (9-11 CDT) work? If so, the next step will >> be a >> >> doodle >> >> > poll to find a specific regular time. Please let my >> assistant, >> >> Stacy >> >> > Walker cc’ed above, know if you want to participate. >> >> > >> >> > Bill >> >> > >> >> > William Gropp >> >> > Director, NCSA >> >> > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science >> >> > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign >> >> > IEEE-CS President-Elect >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > mpiwg-rma mailing list >> >> >mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >> >> >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi…>> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> mpiwg-rma mailing list >> >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >> >> >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi…>> >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-rma mailing list >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-rma mailing list >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-rma mailing list > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…

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Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call
by Joseph Schuchart 02 Sep '21

02 Sep '21

Thanks for filling in the poll everyone. The poll was meant for generic dates but I didn't see a way to make that happen in doodle. I wasn't clear on that, sorry. If that changes the entries in the poll please just add another entry, I will filter them out (I don't think doodle allows you to change your entry). I don't have a strong opinion on whether we should meet weekly or biweekly. We probably have enough topics to discuss for a weekly meeting but people have other things to do so maybe we should start biweekly and see how far that gets us. Let me know if you think otherwise :) Cheers Joseph On 9/2/21 10:30 AM, Thakur, Rajeev via mpiwg-rma wrote: > > And should it be weekly or biweekly. A week goes by pretty quickly. > > *From: *mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> on behalf of > Jim Dinan via mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > *Reply-To: *MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group > <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > *Date: *Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 9:07 AM > *To: *MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group > <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > *Cc: *Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com> > *Subject: *Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call > > Thanks for creating the poll. I will be unavailable Sept 14-16 because > of the OpenSHMEM workshop, but otherwise have time available on these > days. Would you like a response for these specific dates, or for a > recurring weekly meeting on that day of the week? > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 6:02 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma > <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > Judging from the mails so far, there are multiple slots that might > work > for people. Not everyone has responded yet though. To simplify the > process I have set up a doodle poll: > > https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59 > <https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59> > > It contains all the slots within the timezone constraints > mentioned by > Bill plus one hour later, minus the MPI Forum meeting slot on > Wednesdays. Please put in your availability so we can find a slot > starting the week after the EuroMPI/MPI Forum next week. If some > slots > only work bi-weekly, please mention that in a comment on the poll. In > the meantime, we can have a first (informal) meeting Tuesday at 11-12 > CET (seems to suit at least some) at > > https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679 > <https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679> > > to start a discussion on the items most important for 4.1. It's on > short > notice so whoever wants to join is welcome, I will start working > on the > rank terminology in the chapter otherwise ^^ > > Thanks, > Joseph > > On 8/28/21 3:08 PM, William Gropp wrote: > > I have no objections to someone else taking the lead. We did > try to > > find a good time for a meeting, but I don’t think that we > succeeded, > > and I didn’t restart the search in August, and agreeing on a time > > remains the first thing to resolve. > > > > Just to get this restarted, would 10-11 US Central time on Tuesday > > work? Keep in mind these constraints - for the US West coast, we > try > > to start no earlier than 8PT/10CT. For Europe, we try to end by > 6 CET, > > which is noon US CT. > > > > Let me know if that time works. If it doesn’t suggest something > in the > > range above. > > > > Bill > > > > William Gropp > > Director, NCSA > > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > > IEEE-CS President-Elect > > > > > > > > > >> On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com > <mailto:[email protected]> > >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > >> > >> I have not seen such an announcement. I think this WG is in > need of > >> someone to take the lead on organizing meetings and topics. If you > >> have the bandwidth to get us moving, I think the help would be > very > >> much appreciated. @William Gropp <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> What do > >> you think? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> ~Jim. > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:01 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma > >> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > <mailto:[email protected]> > >> <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Bill, all, > >> > >> Has there been a decision on when to reconvene the RMA working > >> group? I > >> recently changed institutes and might have missed emails > sent to > >> my old > >> address... > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Joseph > >> > >> On 6/15/21 11:10 AM, William Gropp via mpiwg-rma wrote: > >> > Hi everyone, > >> > > >> > It's been a long time since we’ve had an RMA call, and there > >> are many > >> > open topics that we need to discuss. Specifically, Min Si has > >> raised > >> > the issue of generalized RMA atomics, in this ticket and PR: > >> > > >> > Ticket:https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/114 > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/114> > >> > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1…>> > >> > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/114 > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/114> > >> > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1…>>> > >> > PR:https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/93 > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/93> > >> > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9…>> > >> > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/93 > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/93> > >> > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9…>>> > >> > > >> > I’d like to schedule at least one RMA call, and allow for a > >> regular set > >> > of calls until we’ve handled the open RMA issues. So my first > >> questions > >> > are (a) are you interested in participating and if so (b) > would > >> sometime > >> > mid-morning US (9-11 CDT) work? If so, the next step will > be a > >> doodle > >> > poll to find a specific regular time. Please let my > assistant, > >> Stacy > >> > Walker cc’ed above, know if you want to participate. > >> > > >> > Bill > >> > > >> > William Gropp > >> > Director, NCSA > >> > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > >> > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > >> > IEEE-CS President-Elect > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > mpiwg-rma mailing list > >> >mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> >https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma > <https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma> > >> > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi…>> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mpiwg-rma mailing list > >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma > <https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma> > >> > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi…>> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-rma mailing list > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma > <https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma> > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-rma mailing list > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma

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Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call
by Thakur, Rajeev 02 Sep '21

02 Sep '21

And should it be weekly or biweekly. A week goes by pretty quickly. From: mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> on behalf of Jim Dinan via mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Reply-To: MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Date: Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 9:07 AM To: MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> Cc: Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call Thanks for creating the poll. I will be unavailable Sept 14-16 because of the OpenSHMEM workshop, but otherwise have time available on these days. Would you like a response for these specific dates, or for a recurring weekly meeting on that day of the week? On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 6:02 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Judging from the mails so far, there are multiple slots that might work for people. Not everyone has responded yet though. To simplify the process I have set up a doodle poll: https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59 It contains all the slots within the timezone constraints mentioned by Bill plus one hour later, minus the MPI Forum meeting slot on Wednesdays. Please put in your availability so we can find a slot starting the week after the EuroMPI/MPI Forum next week. If some slots only work bi-weekly, please mention that in a comment on the poll. In the meantime, we can have a first (informal) meeting Tuesday at 11-12 CET (seems to suit at least some) at https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679 to start a discussion on the items most important for 4.1. It's on short notice so whoever wants to join is welcome, I will start working on the rank terminology in the chapter otherwise ^^ Thanks, Joseph On 8/28/21 3:08 PM, William Gropp wrote: > I have no objections to someone else taking the lead. We did try to > find a good time for a meeting, but I don’t think that we succeeded, > and I didn’t restart the search in August, and agreeing on a time > remains the first thing to resolve. > > Just to get this restarted, would 10-11 US Central time on Tuesday > work? Keep in mind these constraints - for the US West coast, we try > to start no earlier than 8PT/10CT. For Europe, we try to end by 6 CET, > which is noon US CT. > > Let me know if that time works. If it doesn’t suggest something in the > range above. > > Bill > > William Gropp > Director, NCSA > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > IEEE-CS President-Elect > > > > >> On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com<mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> I have not seen such an announcement. I think this WG is in need of >> someone to take the lead on organizing meetings and topics. If you >> have the bandwidth to get us moving, I think the help would be very >> much appreciated. @William Gropp <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> What do >> you think? >> >> Cheers, >> ~Jim. >> >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:01 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma >> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> Hi Bill, all, >> >> Has there been a decision on when to reconvene the RMA working >> group? I >> recently changed institutes and might have missed emails sent to >> my old >> address... >> >> Thanks, >> Joseph >> >> On 6/15/21 11:10 AM, William Gropp via mpiwg-rma wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > It's been a long time since we’ve had an RMA call, and there >> are many >> > open topics that we need to discuss. Specifically, Min Si has >> raised >> > the issue of generalized RMA atomics, in this ticket and PR: >> > >> > Ticket:https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/114 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1…>> >> > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/114 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/…<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/1…>>> >> > PR:https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/93 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9…>> >> > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/93 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/…<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/9…>>> >> > >> > I’d like to schedule at least one RMA call, and allow for a >> regular set >> > of calls until we’ve handled the open RMA issues. So my first >> questions >> > are (a) are you interested in participating and if so (b) would >> sometime >> > mid-morning US (9-11 CDT) work? If so, the next step will be a >> doodle >> > poll to find a specific regular time. Please let my assistant, >> Stacy >> > Walker cc’ed above, know if you want to participate. >> > >> > Bill >> > >> > William Gropp >> > Director, NCSA >> > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science >> > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign >> > IEEE-CS President-Elect >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > mpiwg-rma mailing list >> >mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> >https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi…>> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> mpiwg-rma mailing list >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp…<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpi…>> >> > _______________________________________________ mpiwg-rma mailing list mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma

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Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call
by Jim Dinan 02 Sep '21

02 Sep '21

Thanks for creating the poll. I will be unavailable Sept 14-16 because of the OpenSHMEM workshop, but otherwise have time available on these days. Would you like a response for these specific dates, or for a recurring weekly meeting on that day of the week? On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 6:02 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma < mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote: > Judging from the mails so far, there are multiple slots that might work > for people. Not everyone has responded yet though. To simplify the > process I have set up a doodle poll: > > https://doodle.com/poll/7yzsvqv4re8xnc59 > > It contains all the slots within the timezone constraints mentioned by > Bill plus one hour later, minus the MPI Forum meeting slot on > Wednesdays. Please put in your availability so we can find a slot > starting the week after the EuroMPI/MPI Forum next week. If some slots > only work bi-weekly, please mention that in a comment on the poll. In > the meantime, we can have a first (informal) meeting Tuesday at 11-12 > CET (seems to suit at least some) at > > https://tennessee.zoom.us/j/5524140679 > > to start a discussion on the items most important for 4.1. It's on short > notice so whoever wants to join is welcome, I will start working on the > rank terminology in the chapter otherwise ^^ > > Thanks, > Joseph > > On 8/28/21 3:08 PM, William Gropp wrote: > > I have no objections to someone else taking the lead. We did try to > > find a good time for a meeting, but I don’t think that we succeeded, > > and I didn’t restart the search in August, and agreeing on a time > > remains the first thing to resolve. > > > > Just to get this restarted, would 10-11 US Central time on Tuesday > > work? Keep in mind these constraints - for the US West coast, we try > > to start no earlier than 8PT/10CT. For Europe, we try to end by 6 CET, > > which is noon US CT. > > > > Let me know if that time works. If it doesn’t suggest something in the > > range above. > > > > Bill > > > > William Gropp > > Director, NCSA > > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > > IEEE-CS President-Elect > > > > > > > > > >> On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> I have not seen such an announcement. I think this WG is in need of > >> someone to take the lead on organizing meetings and topics. If you > >> have the bandwidth to get us moving, I think the help would be very > >> much appreciated. @William Gropp <mailto:[email protected]> What do > >> you think? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> ~Jim. > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:01 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma > >> <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Bill, all, > >> > >> Has there been a decision on when to reconvene the RMA working > >> group? I > >> recently changed institutes and might have missed emails sent to > >> my old > >> address... > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Joseph > >> > >> On 6/15/21 11:10 AM, William Gropp via mpiwg-rma wrote: > >> > Hi everyone, > >> > > >> > It's been a long time since we’ve had an RMA call, and there > >> are many > >> > open topics that we need to discuss. Specifically, Min Si has > >> raised > >> > the issue of generalized RMA atomics, in this ticket and PR: > >> > > >> > Ticket:https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/114 > >> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > > > >> > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/114 > >> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >> > >> > PR:https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/93 > >> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > > > >> > <https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/93 > >> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >> > >> > > >> > I’d like to schedule at least one RMA call, and allow for a > >> regular set > >> > of calls until we’ve handled the open RMA issues. So my first > >> questions > >> > are (a) are you interested in participating and if so (b) would > >> sometime > >> > mid-morning US (9-11 CDT) work? If so, the next step will be a > >> doodle > >> > poll to find a specific regular time. Please let my assistant, > >> Stacy > >> > Walker cc’ed above, know if you want to participate. > >> > > >> > Bill > >> > > >> > William Gropp > >> > Director, NCSA > >> > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > >> > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > >> > IEEE-CS President-Elect > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > mpiwg-rma mailing list > >> >mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto: > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > >> >https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma > >> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mpiwg-rma mailing list > >> mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected] > > > >> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma > >> < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-rma mailing list > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-rma >

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Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call
by Jim Dinan 02 Sep '21

02 Sep '21

Thursdays 11-12 CT would work for me. I could only make Tuesday 10-11 CT work some of the time. On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 1:55 PM William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu> wrote: > Wed 10-11 (actually, 10-12?) is the weekly MPI Forum call. > > Other times to consider are Tue 11-12CT and Thursday 11-12CT. I have > conflicts W 11-12 and Thu 10-11, and F 11-12, all CT. > > Bill > > William Gropp > Director, NCSA > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > IEEE-CS President-Elect > > > > > On Aug 30, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Thakur, Rajeev <thakur(a)anl.gov> wrote: > > I have another meeting Tue 10-11 Central that I can sometimes miss. Wed > 10-11 is better. However, if Tue 10-11 works for most people, go ahead with > it, and I will join as often as I can. > > Rajeev > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma-bounces(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> on behalf of > Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Reply-To: MPI WG Remote Memory Access working group < > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Date: Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 6:17 PM > To: William Gropp <wgropp(a)illinois.edu>, James Dinan < > james.dinan(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Joseph Schuchart <schuchart(a)icl.utk.edu>, MPI WG Remote Memory Access > working group <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org> > Subject: Re: [mpiwg-rma] MPI RMA WG call > > Tuesday 10-11 would work for me if we can get things started with it. > There is another MPI-related call in the same slot but I would rather > get the WG starting again and find a better slot as we go. > > Thanks, > Joseph > > On 8/28/21 3:08 PM, William Gropp wrote: > > I have no objections to someone else taking the lead. We did try to > find a good time for a meeting, but I don’t think that we succeeded, > and I didn’t restart the search in August, and agreeing on a time > remains the first thing to resolve. > > Just to get this restarted, would 10-11 US Central time on Tuesday > work? Keep in mind these constraints - for the US West coast, we try > to start no earlier than 8PT/10CT. For Europe, we try to end by 6 CET, > which is noon US CT. > > Let me know if that time works. If it doesn’t suggest something in the > range above. > > Bill > > William Gropp > Director, NCSA > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > IEEE-CS President-Elect > > > > > On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan(a)gmail.com > <mailto:[email protected] <james.dinan(a)gmail.com>>> wrote: > > I have not seen such an announcement. I think this WG is in need of > someone to take the lead on organizing meetings and topics. If you > have the bandwidth to get us moving, I think the help would be very > much appreciated. @William Gropp <mailto:[email protected] > <wgropp(a)illinois.edu>> What do > you think? > > Cheers, > ~Jim. > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:01 PM Joseph Schuchart via mpiwg-rma > <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > <mailto:[email protected] <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>>> > wrote: > > Hi Bill, all, > > Has there been a decision on when to reconvene the RMA working > group? I > recently changed institutes and might have missed emails sent to > my old > address... > > Thanks, > Joseph > > On 6/15/21 11:10 AM, William Gropp via mpiwg-rma wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > It's been a long time since we’ve had an RMA call, and there > > are many > > open topics that we need to discuss. Specifically, Min Si has > > raised > > the issue of generalized RMA atomics, in this ticket and PR: > > Ticket: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > > > > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/… > >> > > PR: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > > > > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/… > >> > > > I’d like to schedule at least one RMA call, and allow for a > > regular set > > of calls until we’ve handled the open RMA issues. So my first > > questions > > are (a) are you interested in participating and if so (b) would > > sometime > > mid-morning US (9-11 CDT) work? If so, the next step will be a > > doodle > > poll to find a specific regular time. Please let my assistant, > > Stacy > > Walker cc’ed above, know if you want to participate. > > Bill > > William Gropp > Director, NCSA > Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science > University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign > IEEE-CS President-Elect > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-rma mailing list > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected] > <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-rma mailing list > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:[email protected] > <mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org>> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpiwg-rma mailing list > mpiwg-rma(a)lists.mpi-forum.org > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mp… > > >

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