Thanks. Details inside. ________________________________ From: mpi3-subsetting-bounces_at_[hidden] [mailto:mpi3-subsetting-bounces_at_[hidden]] On Behalf Of Richard Graham Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 4:57 PM To: MPI 3.0 Sub-setting working group Subject: Re: [Mpi3-subsetting] Subsetting slides for F2F meeting: please comment by EOD March 6, 2008 Thanks a lot for taking on the task of herding cats. Here are some comments: - Growing complexity does not have to mean worse performance. It really depends on where the complexity resides. I'll restore "may" here. - We have not at all agreed to formal recognition of optional parts of the standard. As a matter of fact, on the call there were more opinions expressed in favor of use of a subset in a certain instant, not optional sections. We may at the end conclude that for some features optional is the best way, but have not gone there yet. OK, I'll turn this into suggestion or drop it. - Optimization potential: don't get into too much detail. I am not convinced that all that is listed there is actually correct - implementation can do (and do) a lot to eliminate some of the things listed in the bulleted list. I'll consider this. - What did you have in mind with "mutually incompatible families" ? Several stable combinations of subsets may emerge that will cover different application areas well, but they (the subsets) will be mutually incompatible between each other. Rich On 3/6/08 10:27 AM, "Supalov, Alexander" <alexander.supalov_at_[hidden]> wrote: Hi everybody, Thanks for your comments. Now the slides are also in the Wiki, see http://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/attachment/wiki/SubsettingWi kiPage/MPI-3%20subsetting.ppt . Note that I'm going to incorporate your feedback and remove the backup in the final version - we'll only have 5 minutes to present the WG results to the Forum. Best regards. Alexander ________________________________ From: Supalov, Alexander Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:38 PM To: 'mpi3-subsetting_at_[hidden]' Subject: Subsetting slides for F2F meeting: please comment by EOD March 6, 2008 Hi everybody, Here come the promised draft slides for the subsetting presentation at the MPI Forum. I put this into our corporate template, I hope everybody is OK with this. Your comments will be most appreciated. I would like to finalize the slides on Friday, so please send your feedback by EOD your time on Thursday, March 6, 2008. Sorry for the message size. I cannot upload this file to the Wiki due to file size limitation there. I work this with Rich in background. Best regards. Alexander -- Dr Alexander Supalov Intel GmbH Hermuelheimer Strasse 8a 50321 Bruehl, Germany Phone: +49 2232 209034 Mobile: +49 173 511 8735 Fax: +49 2232 209029 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel GmbH Dornacher Strasse 1 85622 Feldkirchen/Muenchen Germany Sitz der Gesellschaft: Feldkirchen bei Muenchen Geschaeftsfuehrer: Douglas Lusk, Peter Gleissner, Hannes Schwaderer Registergericht: Muenchen HRB 47456 Ust.-IdNr. VAT Registration No.: DE129385895 Citibank Frankfurt (BLZ 502 109 00) 600119052 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ mpi3-subsetting mailing list mpi3-subsetting_at_[hidden] http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-subsetting --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel GmbH Dornacher Strasse 1 85622 Feldkirchen/Muenchen Germany Sitz der Gesellschaft: Feldkirchen bei Muenchen Geschaeftsfuehrer: Douglas Lusk, Peter Gleissner, Hannes Schwaderer Registergericht: Muenchen HRB 47456 Ust.-IdNr. VAT Registration No.: DE129385895 Citibank Frankfurt (BLZ 502 109 00) 600119052 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. *