even years: 3US+euroMPI odd years: 2US,1Asia+EuroMPI.
Yes, this was the last position at the Forum and also discussed at the EuroMPI business meeting. The MPI Forum was re-started by the activities at several EuroMPI conferences, the last one at Paris 2007. Therefore, there is a strong relationship and resposibility and to have the MPI Forum meeting in US and the EuroMPI in Europe both in fall, would not reflect this responsibility. As far as I see, the colleagues in Madrid would like to host the MPI Forum meeting together with the EuroMPI and therefore, I expect - based on the previous meeting rules - we will have MPI-next Forum meeting Sep. 11-13, 2013, (instead of Sep. 9-11 in San Jose), and EuroMPI, Sep. 15-18, 2013, both in Madrid, Spain This may change in later years if the EuroMPI may go to Asia, but this is another discussion within the EuroMPI organizers. Best regards Rolf ----- Original Message -----
From: "Aurélien Bouteiller" <[email protected]> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:41:08 AM Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013 The 3-1 with 1 alternate between asia and europe collected the most vote. However there was significant disappointment about not collocating a meeting with EuroMPI, and after the straw vote closed, another interesting possibility was envisioned:
even years: 3US+euroMPI odd years: 2US,1Asia+EuroMPI.
This last proposal has not been straw voted, so it is not possible to know if it has support, but it seemed from the reception it had that the idea is not unbearable for most US institutions.
Aurelien
Le 26 sept. 2012 à 15:17, Jeff Squyres <[email protected]> a écrit :
I don't remember there being a majority for the 2-2 option here in Vienna -- am I remembering last week incorrectly?
I definitely can't do 2 international meetings next week.
On Sep 26, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Richard Graham wrote:
This was discussed and there was another vote at the meeting in Vienna. This note is just a follow up to the discussions at that meeting.
Rich
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Schulz, Martin Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:36 PM To: Bronis R. de Supinski; Main MPI Forum mailing list Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013
Hi Rich,
I have the same recollection as Bronis and Mohamad. I thought there was a strong majority (at least at the Chicago meeting) for a 3-1 solution with alternating non-US locations (one year Asia, one year Europe, but not both in one year - as it also shows on the current tentative meeting calendar for next year). I know this is not fair to everyone, but the group (again, at least in Chicago, which was pretty complete, though, since we were wrapping up 3.0) felt that this would maximize active participation.
Martin
On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Bronis R. de Supinski wrote:
Rich:
I would have to disagree. At best, you are splitting hairs to say this option was not voted on. In the "alternate" years, it is simply the 2-2 option that was voted on and did not come anywhere near the 3-1 option in terms of votes.
The arguments against 2-2 (even in alternating years) still apply. It significantly lowers attendance by active participants.
Bronis
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012, Richard Graham wrote:
Such decisions are not made lightly - I assure you this. This was discussed at the last meeting, and this was an option that was not voted on. However, this was discussed again at the end of the meeting, and some at EuroMPI.
Rich
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mohamad Chaarawi Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013
Hi Rich,
On 9/26/2012 10:30 AM, Richard Graham wrote:
Therefore, I propose to keep the European meeting of the Forum in conjunction with EuroMPI, and every other year also have a meeting in Japan. With this in mind, here is the proposed schedule for 2012
The majority at the last meeting in Chicago were against having 2 meetings internationally. We had several votes on different formations (4-0, 3-1, and 2-2), and 3-1 was the majority vote.
It would have been fair to have a similar vote in Europe and see how the participants vote.. Did the attendance at the Vienna meeting vote on a different schedule, or is your change coming from just some concerns (which are also valid) from some people?
Can we have a formal organizational Vote by eligible organizations on this instead of just scheduling meetings based on suggestions that vary from meeting to meeting? This vote can be done over the phone.
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