Rich, please can you add #196 to the agenda. It is short and should still fit into the Tuesday 12:30-4:30pm slot. It really needs reading + 2 votes. I agree with Dave on
#166, #170, #172, #177, #179, #181, #183, #186, #191, #197, #201, and #202 are all trivial text changes (I withdrew #200 because it is in #260)
#178 is also trivial. #198 needs discussion but is also trivial, i.e., can be done in May. Or as you said:
My personal view is that this ticket is a waste of time.
With the C++ tickets, I've a little bit different view: #192 is trivial and should be added into MPI-2.2-Errata because it cannot be fixed in MPI-3.0 if we remove all C++. #59 and #190 are C++ interface changes and require 2 votes and should be rejected because C++ is deprecated. #176 should be handled by the I/O chapter committee, but I expect that the current text is okay (but a bit strange) and the ticket should be therefore withdrawn. #261 should also be withdrawn, because in many other arguments we have the same meaning of OUT. #193, and #199 are already withdrawn. And #171 bhas already passed. Rolf ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rolf Rabenseifner" <[email protected]> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:31:52 PM Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] MPI-2.2 errata tickets - may be urgent Yes, we need to do the changes for 3.0. I'll add the Errata-Mark in the ticket that we can put it also into the errata pdf for 2.2.
We should keep the trivial things outside the errata list, i.e., to change them all into MPI-3.0 tickets.
Ticket 321 may be also added into the errata list because we never want to see an 2.2-compliant library handling MPI_Wait for I/O-requests wrong.
We should not spend time to an 2.2-errata discussion, but we should formally read the necessary (and very small) tickets in Chicago.
Rolf
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From: "William Gropp" <[email protected]> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:17:16 AM Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] MPI-2.2 errata tickets - may be urgent I agree with Dave on these, particularly the trivial text changes.
The way that these were handled for MPI 2.0 errata was by providing a web page and forum for discussion, followed by creating a detailed document with the changes (which we already have for previous 2.2 errata), which was then voted on, as a group and once, through an email vote of the Forum (this preceded the current sequence of meetings). For anything that is an errata item, this process has worked well.
I think it is too late to make the change in 196 for MPI 2.2, but it should be considered for 3.0 (by the chapter committee).
Bill
On Feb 17, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Dave Goodell wrote:
==Executive summary==
Only #196 and #198 might possibly need to be discussed by and voted upon by the whole Forum. However, neither is an especially pressing or interesting issue. All of the rest of the tickets just require that the chapter authors are diligent and correct all of the small issues contained in these tickets for their respective chapters.
==Detailed review==
#166, #170, #172, #177, #179, #181, #183, #186, #191, #197, #200, #201, and #202 are all trivial text changes that should be absorbed by the appropriate chapter committees. ***We must not waste our time reading these and voting on them in the whole Forum***
As long as C++ is deprecated then we should avoid taking any action on #59, #190, or #192. However #190 and #192 are trivial if the relevant chapter committees want to fix them.
#199 is a very small (sort of) problem w.r.t. our inconsistent IN/OUT/INOUT usage. I'm inclined to say that we should leave this up to the chapter committee as well. Fab could do us all a favor by withdrawing it again.
#176, #178, and #261 aren't trivial, but they can easily be handled by a short discussion within the relevant chapter committees.
I've withdrawn #193 as a duplicate of #201.
#196 might warrant some discussion, although I personally think that the issue is pointless.
#198 is something that needs to be handled by chapter authors/committees, although the correct action to take would need to be decided by a beauty contest at the forum level. My personal view is that this ticket is a waste of time.
-Dave
On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:33 AM CST, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote:
Rich and all Forum members,
it looks like that the whole Forum forgot that there are also MPI-2.2 errata tickets:
https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/query?status=accepted&status=as...
1 is passed 6 are waiting for reviews 17 seems to need some work
Who may volonteer to look at these 23 issues = bugs in the current MPI-2.2
As long as they are all ticket 0 they can be done in Japan.
5 tickets are "correction to the standard" and usually need 1 reading + 2 vote meetings. This means that some of these tickets are urgent in the sense that they should be scheduled and read in the March meeting.
The forum should be responsible to remove known bugs.
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