Hi all, I started this thread with some KBase leads, and Adam raised some good points, but I'd like to bring this discussion project wide to the devel list. I want to publish a manuscript where we sequenced 124 environmental isolates, resulting in a total of 166 new genomes. We sequenced the genomes, assembled them in KBase, annotated them, modeled them. We have 124 biolog arrays for all sample. I want KBase to be my supplementary material. I want to send people to KBase to get all this data and analysis, rather than pointlessly dumping them into NCBI where they won't be connected to any of the analysis we did (plus I don't really want to jump through the hoops that NCBI would probably make me jump through). So how do we support this? To get things started, here's a few things I think we need: 1.) Persistent KBase-wide IDs for the genomes and phenotype sets that will never change I'm suggesting "kb|g.###" for genomes, and "kb|g.###.phenos.###" for phenotype sets. Comments? 2.) A place people can go to look at the data, download data, access data Initially I'm suggesting I put the genomes and all derived data in one or more workspaces, and put links to the workspace in the workspace browser in the publication, then we make sure the workspace offers good mechanisms for viewing and searching all these phenotypes. Comments? 3.) We need to decide on what metadata we want to support for the release of genomes, models, and Biolog array data in KBase I don't have a strong proposal here. I'm hoping some of the metadata experts speak up. 4.) What are the things about KBase that we find to be the most embarrassing… that we would absolutely want to correct before any manuscript like the one I'm proposing gets published and starts driving people enmasse to KBase. I'm thinking documentation at the moment… and I'm the number one offender here. We have shining spots in the documentation, but we've got some real sore spots too. This is something I think we want to address in short order. If we shift to campaigns, I think we should have a campaign specifically to address these issues. Because if a user of KBase cannot easily publish the work they do in KBase right now, then we're going to have trouble attracting users. The best possible advertisement is a good manuscript that people read and get excited about all the powerful things they can do in KBase. Then they click on our supplementary material and come to KBase and see the tools in action. Chris