I am trying to understand MPI_Get_address and its interactions with C better. I've included the relevant text from C89 and C23 on pointer subtraction at the bottom. As best I can tell, MPICH's "portable" way to generate an address is undefined behavior unless pointers behave as if they point to the same array object, which is always true only when MPI_BOTTOM is zero. Thus, subtraction of MPI_BOTTOM is pointless: it either has no effect or is undefined behavior. The SX-4 workaround from the late 1990s is caused by a compiler bug, unless the SX-4 C compiler defines ptrdiff_t to be int, which would be nonsensical on a 64-bit system. However, the workaround is actually the correct implementation, based on the previous paragraph. Does this make sense? Jeff int MPIR_Get_address_impl(const void *location, MPI_Aint * address) { /* SX_4 needs to set CHAR_PTR_IS_ADDRESS * The reason is that it computes the different in two pointers in * an "int", and addresses typically have the high (bit 31) bit set; * thus the difference, when cast as MPI_Aint (long), is sign-extended, * making the absolute address negative. Without a copy of the C * standard, I can't tell if this is a compiler bug or a language bug. */ #ifdef CHAR_PTR_IS_ADDRESS *address = (MPI_Aint) location; #else /* Note that this is the "portable" way to generate an address. * The difference of two pointers is the number of elements * between them, so this gives the number of chars between location * and ptr. As long as sizeof(char) represents one byte, * of bytes from 0 to location */ *address = (MPI_Aint) ((char *) location - (char *) MPI_BOTTOM); #endif /* The same code is used in MPI_Address */ return MPI_SUCCESS; } ANSI/ISO 9899:1990 6.3.6 Additive operators "When two pointers to elements of the same array object are subtracted, the result is the difference of the subscripts of the two array elements. The size of the result is implementation-defined. and its type (a signed integral type) is ptrdiff_t defined in the <stddef. h> header. As with any other arithmetic overflow, if the result does not fit in the space provided, the behavior is undefined. In other words, if the expressions P and Q point to, respectively, the i-th and j-th elements of an array object, the expression (P)-(Q) has the value i-j provided the value fits in an object of type ptrdiff_t. Moreover, if the expression P points either to an element of an array object or one past the last element of an array object, and the expression Q points IO the last element of the same array object. the expression ((Q)+1) - (P) has the same value as ((Q) - (P))+1 and as -((P)- ((Q)+1)), and has the value zero if the expression P points one past the last element of the array object, even though the expression (Q)+1 does not point to an element of the array object. Unless both pointers point to elements of the same array object, or one past the last element of the array object, the behavior is undefined." G.2 Undefined behavior "Pointers that do not behave as if they point to the same array object are subtracted (6.3.6)." ISO/IEC 9899:2023 §6.5.6 Additive operators 1. 2. 10 When two pointers are subtracted, both shall point to elements of the same array object, or one past the last element of the array object; the result is the difference of the subscripts of the two array elements. The size of the result is implementation-defined, and its type (a signed integer type) is ptrdiff_t defined in the <stddef.h> header. If the result is not representable in an object of that type, the behavior is undefined. In other words, if the expressions P and Q point to, respectively, the i-th and j-th elements of an array object, the expression (P)-(Q) has the value i − j provided the value fits in an object of type ptrdiff_t. Moreover, if the expression P points either to an element of an array object or one past the last element of an array object, and the expression Q points to the last element of the same array object, the expression ((Q)+1)-(P) has the same value as ((Q)-(P))+1 and as -((P)-((Q)+1)), and has the value zero if the expression P points one past the last element of the array object, even though the expression (Q)+1 does not point to an element of the array object.119) J.2 Undefined behavior 1 The behavior is undefined in the following circumstances: (43) Addition or subtraction of a pointer into, or just beyond, an array object and an integer type produces a result that does not point into, or just beyond, the same array object (6.5.6). -- Jeff Hammond [email protected] http://jeffhammond.github.io/