On Nov 6, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Bronis R. de Supinski wrote:
the original email (at least that's how my outfolder has it).
this point).
Marc-Andre:
I
think the slides are too full. Maybe I am missing what the BoF session
is for. Am I correct that it is meant to reach out beyond the Forum?
I tried to cut it down even more. I think we need a bit more than
in your proposal, but I understand your direction.
I
think it is best to have the user relate the info to his own
experience. That's why in my proposal I just wrote "it like PAPI just
for 'Software Counters' and with read--write access". A single sentence
and whoever is listening should have a clear view on what we want to
accomplish. If we directly want comments on the internals, people have
to read the draft first anyway.
I added the PAPI example back.
Also.
I would not cite the direct link to the drafts. People will not be able
to memorize the whole url, so I think the critical info is:
svn.mpi-forum.org and "Tools WG". Then, I would place a link to each draft prominently on the beginning of the page (maybe below "List of …")
Good point - I changed the slides and I will change the Wiki
accordingly.
Bronis:
The animated MPIT slide is good. I tweaked the animation
slightly in the attached so that each examples text box
appears just after the relevant animation.
That actually changed the meaning - the example had the
setup phase to the left and then an example for a performance
variable on the right. Control variables were not in. I changed
the text to avoid this misunderstanding when Rich is presenting.
Also, I thought we agreed that we would not use hidden slides
as it is confusing. In any event, I think you need some words
Those were really intended only for the Web version only.
on MPIT even with the animation. Further, the hidden MPIR
texxt slide was almost identical to the unhidden one. I unhid
all of the slides in the attached and merged the two MPIR
text slides. A good tweak would be to animate the MPIR process
figure but that would be above and beyond.
If we don't want any hidden slides - the last one seems too much.
I got rid of it - people can look at the document.
Overall the current version does put us a couple slides over
the request. However, it goes over due to the graphic slides,
whichwill help to make the talk more interesting so I would
hope that Rich would be OK with that.
We are now 1 slide over, so I hope this is OK.
Kathryn:
I
really like the examples and animation you added to slide 2! Now that
you have that, I think you can remove some of the text from slide 3 to
make it less dense without losing information, e.g. the examples of
variables. I edited slide 3 so that it's somewhat less dense but still
something that I think Rich can read from and get the information we
want across (attached slide 3).
Slide 3 was not supposed to be shown and only intended for the
web version. Since both you and Bronis seemed to not like this,
I added your modified slide as an unhidden one (in which case
I like the reduced text).
Also,
there was a typo in slide 3 that I think you will want to fix in any
case: "if the MPI implementation support this" change support to
supports.
That's in there now.
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