If the changes would have been smaller, then our March meeting would have finalized MPI-3.1 - I'm pretty sure. Yes, I also feel that there should be a short path. For this, the voting slots for RCM may be on the 3rd day, but should be movable to the last day and substitute the FRM voting slot. Rolf ----- Original Message -----

From: "schulzm" <[email protected]> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:06:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Proposed Update the MPI Forum Rules

Hi Aurelien, all,

Jeff and I have discussed this as well, but thought the ratification process is important enough to also warrant the two vote rule, as do regular text items. The reasoning was that there will always be some changes in the RCM (even if they are minor) and this would give people a time to think about them. However, that is certainly a good point for discussion to allow a quick path if there are really no changes pending (something like allowing the RCM and FRM to be at the same meeting with the two votes separated by at least one night). How does the rest of the group feel about this?

Thanks!

Martin

________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, [email protected], http://scalability.llnl.gov/ CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

On 4/14/15, 6:00 AM, "Aurélien Bouteiller" <[email protected]> wrote:

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It seems that the new rules make the preparation of the final version always require 2 meetings. We should keep the possibility open for a 1 meeting final version, for the case when all tickets have been voted and implemented long ago and we only need to vote, like it happened for 3.0. One could argue that the last release meeting where we had still semantic patches on our plate is the outlier rather than the norm.

Aurelien

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Le 14 avr. 2015 à 01:26, Schulz Martin <[email protected]> a écrit :

Hi Steve,

Sorry, I should have made this clear - our proposal would be to consider the March meeting a successful RCM and then, if the rules are accepted, hold the Chicago meeting in July as the FRM.

Thanks for pointing this out,

Martin

________________________________________________________________________ Martin Schulz, [email protected], http://scalability.llnl.gov/ CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

On 4/13/15, 8:16 AM, "Steven Oyanagi" <[email protected]> wrote:

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Hi,

A possibly dumb question, but one that needs clarification for those of us who were not at the March MPI Forum meeting. The new voting rules propose a ³Release Candidate Meeting (RCM)² and a ³Final Ratification Meeting². For MPI-3.1, is the March meeting considered to be the ³Release Candidate² meeting and we are on track to have final ratification of MPI-3.1 in June, or will June be the RCM and final ratification would occur in September? - Steve

-----Original Message----- From: Martin Shulz <[email protected]> Reply-To: Main MPI Forum mailing list <[email protected]> Date: Monday, April 13, 2015 at 1:13 AM To: Main mailing list <[email protected]> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Proposed Update the MPI Forum Rules

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Hi all,

As discussed at the last forum meeting, Jeff and I drafted an updated version of the MPI rules/voting document that we want to propose to the MPI forum and that, if accepted, is intended to cover the MPI 3.1 ratification. The document is attached and all changes compared to the previous document are marked in red. The idea was to basically write up the process we followed at the last meeting and that most seemed to like. Questions and comments are, of course, welcome our intent is to publish a final version with comments included by May 4th, i.e., 4 weeks before the June forum, and then put this document up for a vote at the meeting.

Thanks!

Martin

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