Pavan et al, We did talk about this at a previous Forum meeting. While there was general agreement that we should make use of chapter committees as a more time efficient as well as accurate and reliable approach, what still needs to be done is to revise the rules of engagement and put them up for discussion and formal votes. Torsten and I were drafting a document based on the discussions; I'm behind in finishing it. Bill On Feb 14, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Pavan Balaji wrote:

Can someone clarify what pieces are deemed "chapter committee changes" vs. something that requires voting? My understanding was that grammatical errors that do not change the meaning are the chapter committee's job. While this particular change is trivially obvious, that doesn't fall into the above set of allowed chapter committee changes.

In any case, making a decision over email seems ridiculous. There needs to be an official rule for this. I'm OK with the official rule being "the chapter committee decides on whether a change requires a forum vote or not". But collecting preferences over email is a nonsensical way to do this.

-- Pavan

On 02/14/2012 01:51 PM, Graham, Richard L. wrote:

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Chapter committee should be fine - we don't need a change-log for NBC (it is not in a release version of the standard, so no change to log), but have not yet looked at the other two areas.

Rich

On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Torsten Hoefler wrote:

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On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:10:42PM +0000, Fab Tillier wrote:

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I made a ticket for this, 321, so I could track it and have a way of posting a PDF for folks to take a look (e.g. I'd like the chapter authors for NBC, I/O, and generalized requests to agree to the wording). Beyond that, I don't care how this eventually gets checked into the approved branch, and am happy just merging it and marking it as ticket0 and omitting the changelog entry if that's what folks want.

So far we have:

In favor of full ticket: - Rolf

In favor of chapter committee: - Bill - Dave - Bronis

I'd like to see at least Rich (pt2pt), Torsten (coll), and Rajeev (I/O) chime in with their preference. I already indicated my preference a week ago. I was against a ticket and pro chapter committee. We should lump this into the bulk ticket-0 tickets we have lying around.

Torsten

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