I agree that they are related, but 302 does not introduce any new issues in this arena. I'd be happy to read it, but I don't think there's room on the agenda -- it's already packed with 15 formal readings, last I checked. :-( That being said, since this is not a new problem, my $0.02 is that it could be fixed in 3.1, and therefore not be constrained by the 3.0 January deadline. On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Jeff Hammond wrote:

I can't make it in January. If someone can read it for me, I will write the text.

These questions arose out of my careful reading of ticket 302, so it would make sense if you were willing to read them, since I think they are related.

Jeff

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jeff Squyres <[email protected]> wrote: +1 / good points.

Will you make a proposal about this?

On Dec 16, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Jeff Hammond wrote:

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Are MPI_Initialized and MPI_Query_thread guaranteed to be thread-safe by all implementations? If these MPI calls cannot be made in a fully multithreaded context, how can a multithreaded library determine that it can make MPI calls in an unrestricted fashion, i.e. determine if MPI was initialized with MPI_THREAD_MULTIPLE? Must the multithreaded library mutex around these two MPI calls and assume that MPI_THREAD_SERIALIZED is always available?

Can MPI_Is_thread_main be called from a thread that is not main when only MPI_THREAD_FUNNELED is supported? I recall that the funneled mode stipulates that only the main thread can make MPI calls and there is no text excepting this routine from that constraint.

Thanks,

Jeff

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