Not redirecting breaks the backwards compatibility of this feature.  You first need to deprecate the lists, then wait 3+ years and you can delete them.  At that point, it is at the discretion of IU whether or not to continue to support them.

Also, I want to see the implementation of the new lists before I'll believe you that they'll work.  Can you implement them in hardware?  What is the performance of GUPS using mpiwg-rma?

On a related note, what's the current state of support for MPI Forum lists w.r.t. attachments larger than 2 GB?  I know that's been a problem for some email lists in the past.

:-D

Jeff


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres@cisco.com> wrote:
No.

It's a clean break -- update your addressbooks.

We're all lazy; no one will update their addressbooks until they have to.  So if we issue a "soft" deadline (i.e., the change occurs, but you can still use the old addresses), that won't accomplish anything.  So I directed IU to make it a "hard" deadline: don't redirect the old addresses.

You'll cope.  :-)




On Aug 19, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Pavan Balaji <balaji@mcs.anl.gov> wrote:

>
> Will the old mailing lists still work, but redirected to the new list?
>
> -- Pavan
>
> On 08/19/2013 04:07 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote:
>> FYI.
>>
>> *** NOTE: MOST FORUM MAILING LISTS ARE BEING RENAMED!  From mpi3-<blah>
>> to mpiwg-<blah>.  See below for details.
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> *Subject: **Migrating mpi-forum.org <http://mpi-forum.org>*
>>> *Date: *August 19, 2013 4:39:39 PM EDT
>>>
>>> Dear MPI Forum users,
>>>
>>> We are planning to move all the services under lists.mpi-forum.org
>>> <http://lists.mpi-forum.org/> and meetings.mpi-forum.org
>>> <http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/> to the new server on Wednesday, Aug
>>> 21, 2013.
>>> This migration may need some outage time of web services (e.g.,
>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org <http://lists.mpi-forum.org/> and
>>> http://meetings.mpi-forum.org <http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/>) and
>>> mailing list services (e.g., mpi3-coll@lists.mpi-forum.org
>>> <mailto:mpi3-coll@lists.mpi-forum.org>,
>>> mpi3-fortran@lists.mpi-forum.org
>>> <mailto:mpi3-fortran@lists.mpi-forum.org>, …).
>>>
>>> The migration schedule is following:
>>> - Date: Wednesday, Aug 21, 2013
>>> - Time:
>>>    6:00am-8:00am Pacific US time
>>>    7:00am-9:00am Mountain US time
>>>    8:00am-10:00am Central US time
>>>    9:00am-11:00am Eastern US time
>>>    1:00pm-3:00pm GMT
>>>
>>> The following services may not be available during the migration.
>>> - Web services (e.g., http://lists.mpi-forum.org
>>> <http://lists.mpi-forum.org/> and http://meetings.mpi-forum.org
>>> <http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/>)
>>> - Mailing lists:
>>>   mpi-comments
>>>   mpi-forum
>>>   mpi3-coll
>>>   mpi3-fortran
>>>   mpi3-ft
>>>   mpi3-greq
>>>   mpi3-hybridpm
>>>   mpi3-io
>>>   mpi3-misc
>>>   mpi3-p2p
>>>   mpi3-rma
>>>   mpi3-tools
>>> - Mail archives
>>> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/
>>>
>>> [[IMPORTANT]]
>>> Please note that we will rename the mpi3-* mailing lists to mpiwg-*
>>> during the migration:
>>> mpi3-coll@lists.mpi-forum.org <mailto:mpi3-coll@lists.mpi-forum.org>
>>> --> mpiwg-coll@lists.mpi-forum.org
>>> <mailto:mpiwg-coll@lists.mpi-forum.org>
>>> mpi3-fortran--> mpiwg-fortran
>>> mpi3-ft--> mpiwg-ft
>>> mpi3-greq--> mpiwg-greq
>>> mpi3-hybridpm--> mpiwg-hybridpm
>>> mpi3-io--> mpiwg-io
>>> mpi3-misc--> mpiwg-misc
>>> mpi3-p2p--> mpiwg-p2p
>>> mpi3-rma--> mpiwg-rma
>>> mpi3-tools--> mpiwg-tools
>>>
>>> I hope that we will not lose any mails sent to the above mailing
>>> lists even during the migration but it would be really appreciated if
>>> you hold up sending emails and svn commit until the migration is done.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or issues about this
>>> migration.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> - DongInn
>>> ---------------------------
>>> CREST System administrator
>>> dikim@cs.indiana.edu <mailto:dikim@cs.indiana.edu>
>>> Indiana University
>>> Bloomington, IN
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Squyres
>> jsquyres@cisco.com <mailto:jsquyres@cisco.com>
>> For corporate legal information go
>> to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
> --
> Pavan Balaji
> http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~balaji


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