JQueryUI and smoothness would be consistent with the narrative in terms of overall look and feel. Of course, appearance may change radically by the time we deploy (post February, I mean), etc etc etc. But then UIx would have a set of CSS styles to hand out to everyone, so we could remain consistent going forward anyway. We could probably flesh out over email if we want to incorporate any other common elements (headers, footers, whatever) across demo UIs. That probably couldn't be settled at the build next week since the California team isn't going to be there. But those elements should be relatively easy to incorporate at a later date anyway. On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Henry <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I don't really think it's "early". Shouldn't this have been the first thing we did? I understand that the UI team isn't planning to produce anything for the February demo, but that doesn't mean we won't have a UI by the demo. We've had to bootstrap up temporary UIs ourselves, because we do need to have a UI at the demo, and a lot of people are going to see that UI. Like it or not, that's going to set the look and feel of KBase to a certain extent… Lots of users are going to see and start using the demo system. This is one reason why I really wanted to encourage UI people to try and produce *something* by the demo even if it's not the final product… not sure if that's in the plan at the moment. -Chris On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Annette Greiner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The UI team has not been planning on going to the build, because we were told that the work was going to focus on code development and we should let the developers do that work. If there were discussion of the look and feel of the site, we would of course want to be involved. It's a little early to worry about the graphics (the look) for the narrative UI, though we could certainly start thinking about it. The UI design team has been focusing on the interaction design (the feel) thus far. For the look, we are recommending JQuery smoothness as a temporary, neutral theme so that we can show and test the feel without influence from the look. I would recommend that KBase use a professional graphic designer for developing the final graphic identity. Maybe someone with purse strings--Adam?--can clarify what the plan is in that regard. -Annette On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Thomason, James wrote: At least some of that stuff is already going ahead, or is being worked on in sub-groups already. I've been building the narrative in JqueryUI, for example. The UIx team is defining a lot more of the look-and-feel side of things (e.g., the recommendation is to use the smoothness jqueryui theme). They're also gathering feedback from the users and are planning on getting more, as I get useable stuff churned out. So a lot of the look-and-feel will end up evolving over time. For a CSS doc, if we don't end up using a standard jqui theme, then a custom one through there will define most of the styles anyway. At the moment, at least, if you're building in jqueryui and using the smoothness theme, then you're close to the overall look and feel of where the narrative is. I'm not opposed to a side-table, but it might end up being more of a show-and-share from the UI subgroups than a free-for-all to define stuff. Or maybe there's lots of stuff that can be defined. I can say that I'm very strongly in favor of jqueryui, but don't really care what fonts or colors we end up with, for example. On Nov 19, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Scott Devoid <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: There was discussion during today's microbe's call about holding a brief side-table during the build week to go over the web-UI look and feel. The goal of this side-table would be to define an initial "graphic identity" for the KBase web UI. At the very least this would include choice of fonts, color palette, use of the logo. Hopefully we can also come to agreement on a basic UI look (e.g. Twitter Bootstrap or jQuery UI) and then codify things in a standard CSS document. This shouldn't take more than an hour. Does this sound like a good idea? Who would be interested in participating (particularly those who are not coming to Chicago for the build week)? Example of basic graphic identity statements: http://identity.uchicago.edu/ http://mit.edu/graphicidentity/ http://www.identity.ucla.edu/ ~ Scott _______________________________________________ Kbase-ui mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.kbase.us/mailman/listinfo/kbase-ui -- -Jim Thomason... 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