Re: [mpich-devel] P states and MPI
The released version of Adagio is here: [email protected]:scalability-llnl/Adagio.git The algorithm described is the most trivial of the three we looked at in Rountree ICS 2009. We called it "Fermata": predict how long the MPI rank would wait in a blocking MPI call, and if the expected delay was long enough, drop down to the lowest CPU clock frequency and pop back up just before the call was expected to complete. We saw significant (>10%) total system energy savings will <1% execution time overhead. The best algorithm, though, slowed down computation to consume slack time that was generated by blocking calls, and only if any slack remained we dropped into the lowest frequency. That got us 20% total system energy savings on ParaDis with <1% execution time overhead. This was very much a research project and I expect bitrot has set in by now. Rewriting from scratch wouldn't be difficult (now that I have 5 years more experience writing PMPI tools), but there are a few complications that would need to be addressed before this could be made into a production tool (OpenMP, nondeterminism caused by turbo mode, processor performance inhomogeneity, etc). I think the more interesting question is how to optimize performance under a power bound; solving that problem has the side effect of achieving near-optimal energy use (at least in the common case). We're working on redoing Adagio to solve thing problem, using Intel Running Average Power Limit (RAPL) technology. Best, Barry On 1/17/14 8:25 AM, "Bronis R. de Supinski" <[email protected]> wrote:
Jeff:
Adagio has similar characteristics. Barry has recently released it so he should comment on its availability.
Bronis
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Jeff Hammond wrote:
Thanks Bill. I agree with your assessment. If this is the type of thing that pays off in practice, then it seems to argue for the necessary policy changes.
Bronis - What impresses me about this is the ease at which it can deployed. For the codes for which it reduces power consumption, it's free joules. If it doesn't, there is nothing lost. If your code is similarly portable and easy to deploy, then I'll have to evaluate which one is more effective for the relevant workload.
Best,
Jeff
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Bronis R. de Supinski <[email protected]> wrote:
Um, I would say the Dell approach has no novelty and is rather rudimentary. We have done a lot more in Adagio:
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1542340
@inproceedings{Rountree:2009:AMD:1542275.1542340, author = {Rountree, Barry and Lownenthal, David K. and de Supinski, Bronis R. and Schulz, Martin and Freeh, Vincent W. and Bletsch, Tyler}, title = {Adagio: Making DVS Practical for Complex HPC Applications}, booktitle = {Proceedings of the 23rd International Conference on Supercomputing}, series = {ICS '09}, year = {2009}, isbn = {978-1-60558-498-0}, location = {Yorktown Heights, NY, USA}, pages = {460--469}, numpages = {10}, url = {http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/1542275.1542340}, doi = {10.1145/1542275.1542340}, acmid = {1542340}, publisher = {ACM}, address = {New York, NY, USA}, keywords = {dvfs, dvs, energy, mpi, runtime},
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, William Gropp wrote:
There has been some work on this for parallel programs; Wu Feng at Virginia Tech has done some, for example. I don't recall seeing any work that used the profiling interface. Some of the issues raised, especially the required privs, mean that this is only available for experiments, not production, until that changes. Also, its sometimes possible to make predictions about wait times based on previous iterations; that could be used to refine such control.
Bill
William Gropp Director, Parallel Computing Institute Deputy Director for Research Institute for Advanced Computing Applications and Technologies Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
On Jan 16, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Jeff Hammond wrote:
I was impressed by
http://www.hpcadvisorycouncil.com/events/2013/Spain-Workshop/pdf/5_Del l.pdf /
http://www.bsc.es/sites/default/files/public/mare_nostrum/2013hpcac-05 .pdf. I wonder if anyone else has seen this, done anything similar, is interested in doing something similar, etc. I can imagine that a more integrated implementation has some performance advantages, albeit at much greater maintenance cost.
Thanks,
Jeff
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