My note ... On 3/29/15, 12:22 PM, "Bair, Raymond A." <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Sibendu,

Looking at the FY2015 LCRC usage of Blues (10/1-3/25), many of your industry projects are using Blues quite a lot. I believe that we agreed that they would be run on Fusion. Please pass the word to your team to use Fusion. If there is some special need for Blues time, please let us know so we can discuss. The normal Blues projects are being significantly cut back April-September because demand is so high.

Regards,

Ray

Blues Hours Denso_simulations 38244 Saha biodiesel-combustion 242620 Som cavitation-modeling 224677 Som LES-Engine 118544 Som LES-sprays 315096 Som gm_gasexchange 224270 Som dual-fuel-sprays 59054 Wang

On 3/29/15, 1:14 PM, "Aithal, Shashikant M." <[email protected]> wrote:

Ray:

It is likely that Sibendu (and his post-docs) do not know that they are not supposed to use Blues for industry projects. A gentle reminder that stricter enforcement is being put in place on account of the load on Blues should be helpful. We can send him a list of projects marked as industry, if need be.

Thanks,

Shashi ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Bair, Raymond A. [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 12:23 PM To: LCRC Allocations Admins Subject: Re: [allocations-admins] Problem with the revised allocations spreadsheet

I made a tally of the Blues usage and sent a note to Sibendu about all the industry projects.

Ray

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On 3/28/15, 7:40 AM, "Aithal, Shashikant M." <[email protected]> wrote:

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The priority of the following projects should be changed CFD-TPM Associated Funding: Strategic-LDRD Priority should be 1 instead of 3

cfd_enginemodeling Associated Funding: DOE ­ Office of Vehicle Technologies Priority is 2 - should be 3 (like all other projects of this PI under the same associated funding - unless there is a reason for the higher priority).

_________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Bair, Raymond A. [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:27 AM To: LCRC Allocations Admins Subject: Re: [allocations-admins] Problem with the revised allocations spreadsheet

I agree that we should do something to better to inform the committee. Many aspects can be improved,including distribution of time among organizations, visualizing time requests, etc. We also need to get rid of that too-complicated spreadsheet. Talking with Ti, I think we can build better tools once the userbase2 conversion is complete. Lets target the first FY16 allocation meeting to roll out some new capabilities.

Ray

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On 3/26/15, 7:53 PM, "Aithal, Shashikant M." <[email protected]> wrote:

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I don't think the allocation committee should shy away from coming up with a policy to address this matter. Since every directorate is represented in the committee and the allocation process is open and transparent, there should be no reason why we should not try to implement some fairness doctrine. We could have an excel spreadsheet which shows the various directorates (and the divisions) and their total requested time for this half-yearly allocation - if there is disproportionate usage we let the committee see the disparity and judge for themselves. If some DD/ALD feels aggrieved, they can always make an appeal to the committee and justify why they should get preferential treatment. One could argue that cutting back on time for smaller projects could stifle burgeoning projects and prevent them from becoming the next "strategic" lab initiative.

Shashi ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Bair, Raymond A. [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:39 PM To: LCRC Allocations Admins Subject: Re: [allocations-admins] Problem with the revised allocations spreadsheet

We judge each project by its individual merit. While there is a certain appeal to trying to balance utilization among groups, it would foment squabbles. Coming up with group or division or directorate shares depends on coming up with a fair metric. All the metrics (I can think of) for computing the shares are controversial. Some might say that a directorate's/division's/group's share should be proportional to the overhead they bring to the Lab, since LCRC is funded by overhead. Others might want a measure of how much computing their researchers are funded to do, e.g., programmatic and LDRD funds. Then people would argue that some have other computing resources and should lose share. It gets messy fast.

On the other hand, pushing some projects onto Fusion is a plausible idea. It would be good to propose two scenarios (1) without pushing projects to Fusion, and (2) with pushing projects to Fusion. If we provide SprayFlameLES with 500K instead of the requested 2.85M, then we have 8.7M hours more to allocate on Fusion, enough to make up the difference. If we do this we need to tell certain projects to run only on Fusion, and we will need a list of suggested projects before the meeting starts. Who could easily move? Most LCRC staff projects would need to be on the list.

Ray

On 3/26/15, 4:21 PM, "Aithal, Shashikant M." <[email protected]> wrote:

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Ray:

I think, we should take a closer look at groups who use large allocations and scale them back more severely, or we don't leave Fusion exclusively for industry projects but open it up to everyone.

Shashi ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Bair, Raymond A. [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:06 PM To: LCRC Allocations Admins Subject: [allocations-admins] Problem with the revised allocations spreadsheet

All of the formulas for sums (row 162) are incorrect. The correct total for column AE (New Decisions) was 34,597,000 not 20,797,000!

The value in cell A3 is incorrect. Should be 2015. (Makes no difference since 2014 and 2015 are not leap years.)

Most of the industry projects are listed twice, on both the Data page and the Industry page.

biodiesel-combustion

CAT-engine-modeling

cavitation-modeling

dual-fuel-sprays

LES-Engine

LES-sprays

We should also move the new project spray-flame-les to Industry (2.85M request). Correct?

What should we do now? I have suggestions bsed on past practice. See attached spreadsheet for numbers.

Reducing ApsRenewalLattice to 2M, and OPV to 500K.

Doing the above changes the total to 27,497,000. Now 26% over-allocated.

If we keep the priority 0-2 projects as they are, and scale the rest down to no less than 100K (for the 2nd half), then the scale factor is 71%.

See attached spreadsheet.

My revised total, percent allocation (relative to 100%), and scale factor are at the bottom of column AE

Comments and suggestions?

Ray

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