Bob, on agvideo ./reflector 10000 10001 on agaudio, trying to use the reflector to debug my audio problems and I keep getting rat -allow_loopback agvideo/10000 audio_read: Resource temporarily unavailable ??? What's this ^^^^ oss driver is installed and xmms sends audio to the gentner speaker Cheers, Gary ------------------------------------------------------ Gary Orser , (406) 994-6451, [email protected] Montana State University Center for Computational Biology 1 Lewis Hall, Bozeman MT, 59717